souwest Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Hi, We have all seen the photos of locomotives with a yellow stripe on their cabs showing there were not permitted south of Crewe during the WCML electrification in the early 1960s. I think Duchess, Princess, Royal Scot and Jubilees carried them, but I don't recall any 8Fs , WDs or 9Fs appearing in photos - can anyone advise why, and or are there any classes to be added? Thank you all in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmay2002 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Hi, We have all seen the photos of locomotives with a yellow stripe on their cabs showing there were not permitted south of Crewe during the WCML electrification in the early 1960s. I think Duchess, Princess, Royal Scot and Jubilees carried them, but I don't recall any 8Fs , WDs or 9Fs appearing in photos - can anyone advise why, and or are there any classes to be added? Thank you all in advance. The yellow stripe only applied to classes to tall to work under the wires. 8F's weren't banned but one or two got the yellow stripe anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 5944 Posted July 27, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 27, 2015 http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/28270-yellow-cabside-stripes/ Plenty of info on this topic from a few years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norton961 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 The oddball classes that acquired yellow stripes include a couple of A4s (60027 Merlin and 60031 Golden Plover) and some A2/3s allocated to LM depot Polmadie including 60522 Straight Deal. The ban came into effect on 1/9/1964 and most had the stripe applied in the 2 weeks before the ban came into effect. Some locos were prepared for the stripe but were withdrawn before the stripe was applied. One of Annesleys Re built Scots was seen with the cab side cleaned ready for the stripe but was withdrawn before it was applied. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 The oddball classes that acquired yellow stripes include a couple of A4s (60027 Merlin and 60031 Golden Plover) and some A2/3s allocated to LM depot Polmadie including 60522 Straight Deal. The ban came into effect on 1/9/1964 and most had the stripe applied in the 2 weeks before the ban came into effect. Some locos were prepared for the stripe but were withdrawn before the stripe was applied. One of Annesleys Re built Scots was seen with the cab side cleaned ready for the stripe but was withdrawn before it was applied. David Annesley's rebuilt Jubilee, 45735 had the stripe applied, as did one of Colwick's WDs, 90466, which had been 'westernised' at some time. There's a photo in the Hooper book about them, it's coming up to Bagthorpe Junction from the rat hole with Stanlow-Colwick tanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norton961 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 A few more oddballs, A3 60052, and a couple more A2/3s, 60512 and 60527. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pobrien Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 A3 60041 Salmon Trout https://www.flickr.com/photos/bristolsteam/6108511615/in/photolist-aiMHFM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Border Reiver Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Yellow striped A4 60027 Merlin on Carlisle Kingmoor shed 22 July 1965 (just over 50 years ago) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9430 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 The yellow stripe was ordered to be applied to all 4Fs even though some were below the height limit as there was some confusion as to which ones were and which ones weren't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branksome71B Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 The Jubilee Class bore the Yellow Stripe but can anyone explain their continued use south of Crewe. In a Jim Clemens film, there is a sequence with 45577 Bengal with stripe on cabside coming off Stafford shed and being attached to a Stafford - Wellington service. Thence it departs under the wires from Stafford station. Jubilees were a common sight on this line during their final years. Not a clear shot but shows loco & overhead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Add Super Ds to the list. I think the last three numbered 8Fs were entitled to the yellow stripe as they had larger top feed covers than the rest as they had been returned from the WD in the late 50s. One 8F was given the stripes but it was the wrong one! The Jubilee Class bore the Yellow Stripe but can anyone explain their continued use south of Crewe. In a Jim Clemens film, there is a sequence with 45577 Bengal with stripe on cabside coming off Stafford shed and being attached to a Stafford - Wellington service. Thence it departs under the wires from Stafford station. Jubilees were a common site on this line during their final years. Not a clear shot but shows loco & overhead.Screen Shot 2015-08-03 at 18.03.10.png AFAIK the clearance limitations started south of Stafford. There was plenty of activity between Crewe and Stafford while that section was live. I have pictures of Jubes and leccies at Stafford in 1963. It was when the wires south of Stafford were energised that the ban came in. I presume Crewe was just a more convenient place to change engines as the sheds there were bigger and better stocked than Stafford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Add Super Ds to the list. I think the last three numbered 8Fs were entitled to the yellow stripe as they had larger top feed covers than the rest as they had been returned from the WD in the late 50s. One 8F was given the stripes but it was the wrong one! Not exactly. The stripe was justified when 8773 received it, but should have been painted out when the loco received a replacement boiler with standard top feed in 1966, but wasn't. The strange thing is that 8774/75 didn't get the stripe, although they retained the WD top feed to the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Turnbull Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Here's 48773 at Rose Grove on 10th July 1968. Chris Turnbull Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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