CKPR Posted April 26, 2023 Author Share Posted April 26, 2023 Thinking ahead to the next one as there are two more in the stash, as well as making a former for bending the sides and back, I might tin the underside of the tank top and cut some access holes in the tank floor to enable me to tack solder it from underneath and then seam it from above. Then again like travelling to Camelot, I'm concerned that this might be a silly idea... 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted May 16, 2023 Author Share Posted May 16, 2023 (edited) When I said no more scratchbuilding of 4mm pre-grouping mineral wagons, I was of course thinking of only building kits in the future. A recent trip back to Cumbria found me in the ever excellent C&M Models in Carlisle where I spotted a reasonably priced Oxford Models NBR 8T mineral wagon - a cheap'n'cheerful way of building up the through mineral trains from Scotland that ran over the M&CR ? Conversion to EM involved fitting MJT W-irons and Wizard axleboxes & springs, Wizard brake levers and plenty of etched brass bling from the Mainly Trains [now Wizard] etch. The frankly poor weathered paint finish was very stubborn and survived two baths in Mr Muscle but it should be covered up by a coat of Halfords primer. All in all, a nice wagon and easier than wrestling with the old MWCo kit (of which I've several in the cupboard). Edited May 16, 2023 by CKPR 18 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 13 hours ago, CKPR said: When I said no more scratchbuilding of 4mm pre-grouping mineral wagons, I was of course thinking of only building kits in the future. A recent trip back to Cumbria found me in the ever excellent C&M Models in Carlisle where I spotted a reasonably priced Oxford Models NBR 8T mineral wagon - a cheap'n'cheerful way of building up the through mineral trains from Scotland that ran over the M&CR ? Conversion to EM involved fitting MJT W-irons and Wizard axleboxes & springs, Wizard brake levers and plenty of etched brass bling from the Mainly Trains [now Wizard] etch. The frankly poor weathered paint finish was very stubborn and survived two baths in Mr Muscle but it should be covered up by a coat of Halfords primer. All in all, a nice wagon and easier than wrestling with the old MWCo kit (of which I've several in the cupboard). You do realise that the representation of the end door hinge is a figment of someone's imagination. How that could possibly work is beyond me (and others). The hoop should go right over the end spar, the latter having a metal plate on top at that point. You can see how it should be in this CR example. Jim 6 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted May 17, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 17, 2023 35 minutes ago, Caley Jim said: You do realise that the representation of the end door hinge is a figment of someone's imagination. As far as I can see, the work of imagination is to suppose that the hoops terminate in hinges on the top of the end rail. But without a good inside view or drawing, one would be fogged. Neither Tatlow Vol. 3 nor Hooper's Wagons on the LNER No. 1: North British are particularly illuminating on this. But it doesn't look to be too hard to correct with a sharp blade and a bit of wire. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 The outer washer plate, the loop and the similar inner washer plate are all one piece of metal. Jim 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) Shameful confession time - I was aware of the issues with the end door hinges but had got a bit fed up of tinkering with wagons as I was also refurbishing a batch of S/H O gauge 7 & 8 plank wagons for 'Seahouses'. If I recall correctly, the MWCo kits have a more correct representation of the end door hinges. Edited October 23, 2023 by CKPR 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted June 24, 2023 Author Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) Yes, that is the 0-4-2 reduced to its constituent parts, or at least the footplate and tender. The discrepancy in width was bothering me and whilst it doesn't really show on the 0-4-2T and the 0-6-0, which are quite chunky engines, comparision with the Cauliflower made the 0-4-2 look out of proportion. I thought I'd try cutting it down to the correct width before marking out a new footplate and it seems to have worked. Even reducing the width of the buffer beam was straightforward, albeit the rear plate fell off in the process. Just need to solder it all back together and then on with the splashers, etc. Edited June 25, 2023 by CKPR 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 Just to let you know that my review of the recently published Oakwood Press book on the M&CR has been published in the August edition of 'Cumbrian Railways'. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 For those of us who are not members can you give us a synopsis? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted July 20, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, MarcD said: For those of us who are not members can you give us a synopsis? Along the lines of must buy / don't buy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) Let's just say that the 1947 Oakwood Press book on the M&CR by Jack Simmons is readily available S/H for about half the price of the new one and leave it at that. Edited July 20, 2023 by CKPR 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Ok I was hoping it would be offering something new! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 Alas, no. It probably pulls off the rare feat of being less informative than its predecessor despite being written 75 years later. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share Posted August 20, 2023 A bit like our elderly diabetic cat Fred, I'm still plodding along and have actually made some progress with the M&CR engines, the Special DX (i.e. I've finished the Webb tender and decided to build the Special DX before the Cauliflower) and the bren gun carrier. Photos to follow in the next few days. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted August 23, 2023 Author Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) As promised, some pictures first of No.7. I think I'm on the last lap with this engine as she only really needs the steps fabricating, various fittings secured with epoxy, rods fitting and then the motor wiring up [as per all my tender engines to date, No.7 is 'American system']. Edited August 23, 2023 by CKPR 10 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted August 23, 2023 Author Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) As for No.3, there's actually more work been done than is perhaps obvious. I reassembled the narrowed footplate and then realised that the front buffer beam was all wrong. Fair to say that these M&CR double buffer beams are starting to do my head in ! Going by the photograph in "Rails Through Lakeland" of No.3 at Bassenthwaite on the CK&PR, her front buffer beam was just a normal if deep rectangle without any curvy bits. And this after I narrowed the original one. I then discovered that the tender side frames for No. 3 were different to the ones I'd originally made when the tender was destined for No.20...at this rate, I'll have most of the parts in stock for the second attempt at No. 20. Update: I'm looking to get a proper Rotring techical drawing template in order to mark out the new tender sideframes. Edited August 24, 2023 by CKPR 7 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted August 24, 2023 Author Share Posted August 24, 2023 And just what is it that makes modelling the late 1920s pre-Stanier LMS so different, so appealing ? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted October 12, 2023 Author Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) Currently betwixt an overnight stay in A&E at the start of the week and an out-patient angiogram at the end of the week and determined to finish painting a brace of LNWR opens. I'm also pondering going over to auto couplings, at least in part, and I'm considering Marc D's "Flippems" (I liked the look of Dinghams but these are obviously now unobtainable). Better modellers than me in the CRA have attempted to persuade me of the merits of AJs and I've got the wherewithal in the form of jigs, etc. Alas, the cluttered undersides of my wagon fleet, some of it nearly 40 years old, probably precludes fitting them. Edited October 12, 2023 by CKPR 1 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFPettigrew Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 2 hours ago, CKPR said: these are obviously now unobtainable If you did want original Dinghams, these are soon to go on sale from the Scalefour Stores. Not that I am wishing to detract from Marc's reworking of them. But more importantly, wishing you a speedy recovery. All the best Neil 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted October 21, 2023 Author Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) Well, I managed to finish off the LNWR and NBR wagons on the workbench and I'm going to have a go at completing No. 7 this weekend. But wait, what madness lies on t'other side of said wagons ?! In my defence, I used an unopened PC Models Sheet M13 LMS wagon insignia (methfix), so whilst I may be in the wrong, like the Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy, I am definitively in the wrong. The blank side of the NBR wagon is, of course, due to my lack of LNER lettering [forgetting about stash of Slaters NER 20T hopper kits with their ever so useful lettering sheets] Edited October 21, 2023 by CKPR 11 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 NBR wagon seems to have lost the hoop off one of the end door hinges. Jim 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted October 21, 2023 Author Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) It's marked down as a repair before entering service and auld Dugald Kirkpatrick, the 60 year old junior wagon painter, has had his weekly pay docked by 2d for his lack of due respect for the company's property. Edited November 5, 2023 by CKPR 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted October 21, 2023 Author Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) The next ones will finished in pre-1923 William Baird & Co. livery, honest. Edited October 22, 2023 by CKPR 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CKPR Posted November 1, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) Will ye ken this beauty just arrived via the Bay of E ? A proper old school scratchbuild and none the worse for her armour plate mainframes. If anyone recognises her or her builder, then do please let me know. And what justifies a Caley 4-4-0T on this thread ? The Solway Junction Rly. of course and its connection with the M&C at Brayton with one of it's stations (Bromfield) being in the locality of Mealsgate [In reality, the 4-4-0Ts were used on the Scottish side of the SJR on the services from Annan to Kirtlebridge]. Edited November 1, 2023 by CKPR 19 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted November 1, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2023 That's a lovely looking loco. You've gotta love eBay. Is it in EM or do you have to change the axles? Regards Lez. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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