badders68 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I am very new to all of this and I am not quite sure where to look to see if models exist or even if I have identified these trains correctly. I have seen a number of photographs connected to trains that came through Exmouth and as it is this area that I am considering collecting for, I wondered if any were known to even exist as models. The ones I can sort of identify are below. It would be interesting to know if any exist as models. Many thanks in advance, if anyone can offer any help. Thanks also to the person who posted the pictures on Facebook - it has really helped me gather some ideas. BR Standard 3MT 2-6-2T 82017 Southern 187 (???) Steam engine LSWR 415 class 30583 30199 BR standard 3MT class locomotive 82019 82011 82013 steam train 41307 31853 30323 2-6-2T steam locomotive 82022 Class 155 diesel These diesel trains? What on earth was this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted August 30, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 30, 2015 Most of those are, or soon will be, available as ready-to-run models in 4mm scale/OO (although you would need to do some renumbering). The Swindon Cross-Country DMUs are only available as a kit (DC Kits). The peculiar track maintenance vehicle is an ex-US army truck. I think that you would only find that in 1:87 or 1:72 scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
badders68 Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Thank you, Joseph. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted August 30, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2015 The US truck is a Diamond T, originally a tank transporter tractor. Matchbox did a plastic kit in 1/76 (4mm/foot) but it had a hard top cab. The kit can be found second hand and a soft top cab conversion kit is available from Scale Link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 The last photo is a conversion of a Diamond T tank transporter tractor, built in the U.S. during WW2 but for the British Army and to a British Army specification. They were used well into the 1950's, maybe even 60's, and many went into civilian use as heavy haulage tractors. There were hard top and, as in the photo, soft top versions. I've never seen that rail conversion though, fascinating. A plastic kit was available from Matchbox and Revell, same kit, different boxes, they come up frequently on eBay and Oxford Diecast currently have one in their range. It'd make nice conversion project. Edit: Pete beat me to it whilst I was typing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted August 30, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2015 The US truck is a Diamond T, originally a tank transporter tractor. Matchbox did a plastic kit in 1/76 (4mm/foot) but it had a hard top cab. The kit can be found second hand and a soft top cab conversion kit is available from Scale Link. Never mind the Diamond T 980, what about the Derby suburban unit behind it in early blue with small yellas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I am very new to all of this and I am not quite sure where to look to see if models exist or even if I have identified these trains correctly. I have seen a number of photographs connected to trains that came through Exmouth and as it is this area that I am considering collecting for, I wondered if any were known to even exist as models. The ones I can sort of identify are below. It would be interesting to know if any exist as models. Many thanks in advance, if anyone can offer any help. Thanks also to the person who posted the pictures on Facebook - it has really helped me gather some ideas. BR Standard 3MT 2-6-2T 82017 Southern 187 (???) Steam engine LSWR 415 class 30583 30199 BR standard 3MT class locomotive 82019 82011 82013 steam train 41307 31853 30323 2-6-2T steam locomotive 82022 All 82xxx,31853 ( SR class N), 41307 ( Ivatt 2-6-2T - new tooling release due soon -hope!) - Bachmann 30583 (Adams Radial), Southern 187 & 30199 (Adams O2) - 'DJM Dave' of this forum could (?) possibly tell you more or have a word with Kernow Model Rail Centre. 30323 M7 Hornby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
badders68 Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 All 82xxx,31853 ( SR class N), 41307 ( Ivatt 2-6-2T - new tooling release due soon -hope!) - Bachmann 30583 (Adams Radial), Southern 187 & 30199 (Adams O2) - 'DJM Dave' of this forum could (?) possibly tell you more or have a word with Kernow Model Rail Centre. 30323 M7 Hornby. Thank you v much for your reply and help. Much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 The US truck is a Diamond T, originally a tank transporter tractor. Matchbox did a plastic kit in 1/76 (4mm/foot) but it had a hard top cab. The kit can be found second hand and a soft top cab conversion kit is available from Scale Link. The picture (and others) appears in the Middleton Press book Branchlines to Exmouth. It was taken on 31st August 1968 when the truck was being used to recover materials from the closed line to Budleigh Salterton and Sidmouth Junction, cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 The picture (and others) appears in the Middleton Press book Branchlines to Exmouth. It was taken on 31st August 1968 when the truck was being used to recover materials from the closed line to Budleigh Salterton and Sidmouth Junction, cheers So it was a contractor's vehicle then ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 So it was a contractor's vehicle then ? Yes, that is my understanding of the caption. I think it is standing on the loco shed road, which by then may have been disconnected from the 'main' line. The Budleigh Salterton / Tipton St. Johns route had been normally worked by class O2 locos, than later by Ivatt 2MT tanks and BR Standard 3MT tanks and finally DMUs. cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthesnail96 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 The Diamond T is fascinating- never seen or heard of that before. Where did the picture come from please? I'd like to share it elsewhere online if I can. A friend of mine has restored one over the last few years (a hard cab variant). Looks like that one has been re- engined from the bulge in the bonnet side. The British army fitted Rolls Royce engines to quite a few, they were originally Hercules 6cyl diesels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Wynn's (haulage contractors) were big users of the Diamond T:- . http://www.truck-photos.net/picture/number3943.asp . See this:- . . Narrated by John Peel - with Joseph Parry's "Myfanwy" as the background . Brian R Cardiff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthesnail96 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 And one of the fantastic Wynns Pacifics too. Great bit of film that. Sorry for the thread hijack. I could help if anyone wants to do a sound project for one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 The Diamond T is fascinating- never seen or heard of that before. Where did the picture come from please? I'd like to share it elsewhere online if I can. A friend of mine has restored one over the last few years (a hard cab variant). Looks like that one has been re- engined from the bulge in the bonnet side. The British army fitted Rolls Royce engines to quite a few, they were originally Hercules 6cyl diesels. It looks very much like a crop of a picture by S P Derek in the Middleton Press book Branchlines to Exmouth cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted September 7, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2015 Does anyone know were the Diamond T was photographed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Does anyone know were the Diamond T was photographed? Exmouth, the photographer is standing east of the platforms, the DIamond T is standing on the siding leading to the loco shed, with the cab facing towards Exeter. If it is not the same picture as the one in the Middleton Press book the photographer must have been looking over the shouder of S P Derek, If you were to take the picture today you would need to stand in the middle of Marine Way The DMU in the background is standing at the one platform that remains in use, cheers cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_Hatter Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The Diamond T will most likely have belonged to a contractor involved in the lifting the line to Budleigh Salterton etc. The container wagon behind it looks like it has bottles for the scrapping torch on it as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted September 7, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2015 Exmouth, the photographer is standing east of the platforms, the DIamond T is standing on the siding leading to the loco shed, with the cab facing towards Exeter. If it is not the same picture as the one in the Middleton Press book the photographer must have been looking over the shouder of S P Derek, If you were to take the picture today you would need to stand in the middle of Marine Way The DMU in the background is standing at the one platform that remains in use, cheers cheers The Diamond T will most likely have belonged to a contractor involved in the lifting the line to Budleigh Salterton etc. The container wagon behind it looks like it has bottles for the scrapping torch on it as well. I remember now hearing or reading somewhere of a contractor using a modified Diamond T for dismantling closed railways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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