Clive Mortimore

Having stood in the ER EMU compartment stock, classes 302, 305, 307 and 308, each compartment would have six sat on one side and five the other (not everyone is skinny) and seven or eight people standing on the feet of those seated, quite a lot people. Not too sure if the ER loco hauled sets were as busy as the Liverpool Street services. Soon learnt to find one of the open saloons, far more standing space. This was followed by a even better idea, usally there would be more than one train loading and heading for Chelmsford, so I would make my way to the last one to leave and get a seat, so I sat in Liverpool Street a little longer but if you could get a seat in the declassified first class on a 309 it was worth the luxury.

From the link you have provided.

I have the 1969 DMU working diagram book for the Kings Cross to Cambridge services and it is full of information about which units work which trains and which ones are coupled with each other and when are and when they are split. It however does not indicate which end the DMBS or DTC should be. The corresponding loco hauled carriage workings does state which way round catering cars should be arranged, kitchen facing south or north as well as a few other types of coaches. As the DMU book does not indicate which way round a unit should be and like yourself studying photos of ER two car units there seems no logical pattern

I have one in one of my Met Cam 4 car units, and they were labeled Buffet.

There will be a DMU update on Sheffield Exchange shortly.

Hi DMU fans Back in the late 60s while standing on the end of the platform a Bedford station a pair of WR Cross Country DMUs went pass on a special, as well as the excitement of 6 new unit cops the middle coach of one unit was a buffet, how exotic, a buffet in a humble DMU. I have just trawled through the photos on Railcar UK looking at green livery class 119 and 120 trailer seconds with buffet. Some are proud to say they have a buffet with BUFFET being displayed on the coach side, others are lacking advertising as they are not lettered BUFFET and a very few have a BR coach emblem (which normally was only applied to power cars). As I have just recently assembled (cut and shut) both a Swindon and a Gloucester units I am curious if there was a logical pattern? Was it certain depots who labeled the buffet cars? Was it just random? Anyone have a list of which ones were labeled and when? I am only interested in green liveried units as I am a D&E BRB* modeller. * Before Rail Blue

And/or plastic card. Barcaly 0-6-0 204hp..............homemade Both types of Hudswell-Clarke 0-6-0 204hp..............homemade Hunslet small wheel and small cab 0-6-0 204hp..............homemade Hunslet 0-4-0 165hp..............homemade, needs new chassis North British 200hp 0-4-0, both body outlines..............homemade, one unfinished North British 225hp 0-4-0, three body styles..............homemade, unfinished North British 330hp 0-4-0..............homemade, unfinished LMS jackshaft drive 350hp 0-6-0 two variations..............homemade and a Judith Edge LNER 350hp 0-6-0..............homemade SR 350hp 0-6-0..............homemade Hawthorn Leslie 350hp 0-6-0 (LMS and GWR)..............homemade GWR only Ruston & Hornsby 165DM 0-4-0..... Judith Edge, still in its box.

Not that I am aware of. But have had Fazerdaze

Shush, don't confuse poor Woody.

Hi Mike Oddly that is more expensive than Wickes, who's price works out at £14 per meter, the e-bay offer is £12 per half meter. Pity Wickes do not sell it in half meter lengths.

Dear Woody I think you is a missing a few. Barcaly 0-6-0 204hp Both types of Hudswell-Clarke 0-6-0 204hp Hunslet small wheel and small cab 0-6-0 204hp Hunslet 0-4-0 165hp North British 200hp 0-4-0, both body outlines North British 225hp 0-4-0, three body styles North British 330hp 0-4-0 LMS jackshaft drive 350hp 0-6-0 two variations LNER 350hp 0-6-0 SR 350hp 0-6-0 Hawthorn Leslie 350hp 0-6-0 (LMS and GWR) Ruston & Hornsby 165DM 0-4-0

But Mike, to the diesel shunter enthusiast a class 11 would be a suitable mate for a class 08 and/or 10 (LMR, NER and ER) . Like wise a class 12 would work happily along side an 08 and/or 09 (SR). After all there are more visual differences between a class 11 and class 10 (or class 12 and class 09) than there is between a Saint and Hall, every GWR modeller has more than one member of the saintstarcastlehallkinggrangemanorcounty class of loco. A (great) Western Region modeller might even have one of the six WR 350 pilots (class 11s built at Swindon but not given a TOPS class number) and an 08. Without checking (so could be wrong) the ScR modeller can only have class 08s.

Yo Sainty The title does say Toy Trains, Music , and F U N This is F U N

Still not talking to you. 🙃 I have stuff on the go which will make you shudder.

Hi Phil Did you manage to pick it up?