bigdaveadams1 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 I'm wondering which units worked the Sittingbourne to Sheerness branch in the Network Southeast years? Particularly interested in whether 2 EPBs ever worked it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 It was worked by CEPs when I moved to Sittingbourne in 1990. Older photos show HAPs. Until the demise of slam door units the branch was advertised with both 1st & 2nd class accommodation so it's unlikely that EPBs would have been diagrammed as standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdaveadams1 Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 Cheers for that! Didn't realise it was advertised as 1st and standard. So it could have been worked by a VEPs or HAPs on the odd occasion? I've definitely seen a VEP down there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Cheers for that! Didn't realise it was advertised as 1st and standard. So it could have been worked by a VEPs or HAPs on the odd occasion? I've definitely seen a VEP down there. VEPs appeared on occasion but the staple was CEPs - in Connex days when the 3CEPs were created they were used most often. I believe HAPs were the regular stock in the 70s/early 80s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 7, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 7, 2015 In the early 80s the 1716 Vic - Sheerness had a 4-EPB on the rear of the HAPs, I think. Get Mike Storey involved here, he has local knowledge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 In the early 80s the 1716 Vic - Sheerness had a 4-EPB on the rear of the HAPs, I think. Get Mike Storey involved here, he has local knowledge. You've prompted some memories there! Prior to the 1992 timetable recast (which thinned out the Kent Coast service on the back of the recession whilst also creating the paths for the to-be-introduced Eurostar service), some of the peak main line Kent Coast via Chatham VEP/CEP formations were augmented with 4EPBs. These were drawn from a special pool of units (all later BR-design) fitted with 'express gear ratios' - rather than the normal 75mph nominal top speed, they were geared for 90mph running with the CEPs/VEPs. There would normally be one EPB on forming the the back 4 of a 12 coach train, and if you were going to Ramsgate you hopefully had a strong bladder as unlike the front 8 coaches, there was no corridor, no 1st class and no toilets.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 7, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 7, 2015 Those 90-mph 4-EPBs go right back to the '60s, when 5357 and 5358 were converted. They ran the 0647 Eastbourne - London Bridge & 1751 back, I think. The 1716 Vic used any old 4-EPB, though, and as it stopped at all halts and most lampposts there was very little need to run above 75 mph! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 From memory, HAPs in the late 70s, and from my photos, CEPs or VEPs in the pre-NSE 80s, and 466s in the 2000s. Unfortunately I moved away/lost interest in the NSE period up to privatisation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted October 7, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 7, 2015 thanks andyman7 and oldddudders - never knew there were any 'high-speed' EPBs, always thought it was just the HAPs that had the necessary gear ratio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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