Andrew P Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Its looking very neat Pete, (wow that rhymes) and I like the use of the LOGO EDIT = LEGO, blocks. Well done. Edited January 28, 2016 by Andrew P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guest Posted January 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Had a productive day today. That could of course mean I had nothing better to do... Platform 3 is now the same length as Platform 2 (in fact a little longer) thanks to the modern platform extension. There's no reason for it, apart from adding a little visual interest. There is a slight curve at the right-hand end, which was marked out using the longest coach I have. The Lego supports look fine and I particularly like the way you can see daylight through them. Steps or a short ramp (I'm not sure yet - I'll have to take a look at some prototype platfrom extensions) need to be added. It's not fixed down yet... the position of the supports need to be marked and then a sprinkling of ballast, earth and scrub needs to be added to the baseboard. That'll be easier to do before gluing down the platform. White lines need to be masked and painted on Platforms 2 & 3 and then I can move on to something else. Edited for typos. Edited January 28, 2016 by Pete 75C 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AireValley1962 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Hey Pete, despite my being a LMR modeller, I really appreciate the modelling that you're doing here. Ever since I saw Croydon North Street in Hornby Magazine, I was extremely interested in your layout(s). I must say too that your use of LEGO bricks is quite clever. I wouldn't have thought of doing that. However, I did once build a Network Rail MPV out of LEGO . . . I have attached a picture for you to see. It's closest to a course S scale model in terms of size. Cheers, William 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Thanks William. If I ever run out of Lego bricks, I know who to contact! I'd give Andy P a shout, but he uses Logo blocks and I'm not sure if they're compatible (sorry Andy... couldn't resist that). It's funny you should mention LMR. I briefly considered renaming "Wandsworth Park" and moving it to somewhere like Willesden. Norwood drivers used to go there a fair bit and I got to know the yard quite well. It would have saved me having to fit 3rd rail! The AC electrics are always interesting but I don't know a great deal about them. Southern modellers are now quite spolit with EMUs but definitely not the case with LMR modellers of the same era. Maybe one day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanks522 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 The thought had crossed my mind! I have a Hornby "Shark" and a couple of spoil wagons in mind as eye candy for the long siding and as part of a movable rake of wagons. I'm never going to fit a long block train onto this layout, so a few short trains (passenger and freight) are a must. With the modern platform extension being the next job on the list, I've had a play around with the Lego again. I'm not sure I can better these as supports. I've made up a dozen which is probably too many. wp_083.jpg wp_084.jpg Hi Pete, Layout is coming along beautifully, I think your use of Lego though is the best thing i've seen in railway modelling in ages, it just works perfectly! Graham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Thanks Graham. I think I'm done with the "visible" Lego as I don't want to overdo it, even if at first glance it's not obviously Lego. It's dead handy behind the scenes though... you can make perfect 90 degree corners and then clad with Wills sheet or similar, gives the structure great strength too. My daughter's grown out of Lego but I may have to get her some for her birthday and then "borrow it"... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted January 29, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) Hope i have the link right pete but you might be interested in this from bargain hunters. It's safe to go in there again, out-of-stock-gate seems to have concluded. PS got the link wrong but its il grifone post today about imitation lego cheap at wilco Edited January 29, 2016 by colin penfold Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Hope i have the link right pete but you might be interested in this from bargain hunters. It's safe to go in there again, out-of-stock-gate seems to have concluded. PS got the link wrong but its il grifone post today about imitation lego cheap at wilco Invisible (L)ink! Get it? Spotted the post in Bargain Hunters this morning, Colin. Worth a look, even just for corner stiffeners when scratchbuilding. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guest Posted February 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2016 Platforms have been "white-lined", steps (rather than a ramp) added to the platform extension. The part-lifted bay platform track has been finished (sort of). I really should get the Platform 1 track ballasted, then the slightly higher-level Platform 1 can be built and the dividing wall and stairs made up. I seem to be a little fixated with the station area at the moment, with the scenic break road bridge desperately needing attention but not getting a moment's thought! 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Coming along nicely Pete. Your ballasting is very effective and I like the lifted bay track, very nice! Best regards, Jeremy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted February 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2016 Those steps remind me of the ones that used to be at Farringdon to get from the Southbound Thamelsink platform to the West bound Met / Circle line platform. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Those steps remind me of the ones that used to be at Farringdon... I must be doing something right! Farringdon was exactly what I had in mind. The difference in height between platforms and the number of steps is almost identical. © Copyright Dr Neil Clifton and licensed for reuse under this Creative Commons Licence Edited February 2, 2016 by Pete 75C 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftwinguk Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 All coming together well Pete, I like the use of the lego for the platform extension supports. The lifted track and discarded sleepers are a nice touch. All the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I've made up the dividing walls between the low/high level platforms. The concrete render effect is simply suede aerosol paint, primed and streak-weathered with powders. The brick parapets and piers are a modern red brick Scalescenes download. I don't often use brick paper as I dislike the lack of relief. In this case, I think it looks ok. I can't add the coping stones (from a Wills kit) to the top of the wall until the other side is done to match. The steps that Ian mentioned yesterday are from an ancient Airfix/Dapol kit. Shown below are the same steps with side walls and fence. I'll definitely use the steps themselves, but the jury's out on the side walls and fence. If I were to use the side walls, I'd lose the primitive embossed brick effect and go for a concrete render. It's the fence that I'm really not sure about... the picket fence is surely more "pretty country station" than "grimy urban station"...? I'm really not sure. The alternative is to make up higher side walls and cover in the same Scalescenes brick and then add handrails from brass wire. Hmmm... 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted February 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2016 I would go for a KeyClamp type handrail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AireValley1962 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Hey Pete, Really enjoying the progress you're making. A wall with a handrail either on top or the side seems to be the right way to go for an urban feel. William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I would go for a KeyClamp type handrail. A wall with a handrail either on top or the side seems to be the right way to go for an urban feel. Yeah, the picket fence just doesn't work, does it? This is not 1930s GWR... I may rub down the side panels to get rid of the awful pseudo brick relief and give them a concrete finish. Uprights and handrails can be added (key clamp type). I might also make up totally new high sides and add a handrail. It will all come down to which I prefer (or which type I don't mess up). Thanks. I've salvaged the Peco SR concrete edging from my first attempt at the platforms and this will be reused for Platform 1 although it's facing the wrong way and won't be seen unless operating the layout from behind the backscene. There's 50/50 bullhead/flatbottom running into Platform 1. This needs ballasting and then I'll get the platform made up. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) The last couple of days have been spent getting the line into Platform 1 ballasted and the platform sub-structure and edging in place. Pictures below, but not because there's anything of interest to see. I've added the pictures because I need to pose a question... It's always been my intention to add a 12" baseboard extension to the station end. This little extension will include the buffer stops and a representation of the station concourse. I don't really have the room for it at home, but *if* Wandsworth Park ever gets exhibited at a local level, it will be a nice little "eye candy" way of finishing off the station area. Problem... Platform 1 sits around 16mm (or a scale 4 feet) higher than everything else. If this was a through station, there would be no issue. The difference in height wouldn't matter and connection between platforms could be suggested by either a subway or a footbridge. Because it's a terminal station and I want to model the concourse area, I haven't got a sodding clue how to make it believable. At the moment, all I can think of is modelling a wide ramp with a flight of steps either side coming down from Platform 1. You can see from the pictures that I've allowed room for two station buildings. It's intended that the main building should be on Platform 1 (high level) with a smaller building to include a Red Star office located on Platform 3 and the disused Platform 4. Car parking and parcel business will access the station from this smaller building. There will be no footbridge or subway and access to all platfroms will be by using the concourse behind the buffer stops. Am I missing a trick? Is there a solution to this that hasn't occurred to me? Better still, does anyone know of a prototype terminus anywhere in the country that has platforms at different levels? The inspiration would be useful. I'm currently thinking about it so much that I'm starting to go blank. Edited February 5, 2016 by Pete 75C 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted February 5, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2016 Totally agree with you and the other guys about the steps pete. Keep the side walls and use some modern railings instead of the fencing. Id do the same sort of thing with the booking office. A long shallow ramp parallel to the platform. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted February 5, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2016 Haven't had a look on here for a while. Looking stunning Pete, I love the semi lifted track. You used to see that all over in the 70s and 80s stations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Thanks Russ. I think the lifted bay works well and it does very much remind me of the 70/80s era. Colin... absolutely. I've "concreted" the step side walls and they look good. Just need to come up with a post and rail solution. Re: the dilemma about what to do with the concourse, I'll knock up a simple line drawing showing the space available. If nothing else, it may help me focus on what to do... what will work and what won't. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Maybe think of it as two stations, initially built by different companies. One building has been knocked down and replaced with something else, or both have been redeveloped into something modern (but probably only on the plot of one of the original buildings). If you work out how it got built like that in the first place maybe you can come up with the story for how it became what you're modelling. As for adjacent termini at different levels, only Broad St/ Liverpool St immediately comes to mind, but Victoria was effectively still is two adjacent stations... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david51 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Pete, Brilliant work but you are thinking too much! Platform 1 was Company A and2&3 were Company B. Make it look as if one or both lines went further but were closed and the station rationalised. P1 could be original station and Ps2&3 when line was extended at a lower level befor closure. Think Wrexham Exchange or Ilkley for general idea.cant think of a specific prototype but it's your railway . Hope this helps. Regards David51 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted February 5, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) How about https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunswick_railway_station Edited February 5, 2016 by colin penfold 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Thanks guys. That's all really helpful. I agree the simplest solution would be to treat them as two separate stations joined at some point in (recent?) history. That's a good starting point. It also occurs to me that the difference in height on the platform side is no different to the countless stations where the Clasp-type (for example) station building is at platform level and access from ground level (the street/car park) is via steps and a ramp. Food for thought indeed. It also occurs to me that it would have been a whole lot easier if Platform 1 wasn't on a slightly higher elevation but hey... done now. I at least feel like there's a little less weight on my brain now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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