BobM Posted March 7 Author Share Posted March 7 9 minutes ago, GWR57xx said: Hi Bob, I think it would be more prototypical for the new road (where 2217 is) to be used to hold wagons to be loaded with ash to be taken away, and the coal stage road (where 2213 is) to have the ash pit. Usually the fire would be dropped while the tender/bunker of the engine was being replenished for its next duty. Once it had cooled the ash would be shovelled from the pit into the waiting wagons. Hi Cheers for the advice, that can be done for sure, I can add the pit itself on the coaling road as there’s sufficient room to accommodate it. Regards always and much appreciated. Bob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted March 7 Author Share Posted March 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, BobM said: Evening! Having settled on the added small ‘Y’ and adapted the turntable roads, the additional parallel siding I intended to use as the site for the ash pit site? 2217 sitting where it is intended to place the pit. Regards Bob Planning to base the ash pit design on Leamington Spa in a very loose way, the pit positioned adjacent to the coaling point but on my layout just short of the buffer stops (instead of the turntable as here) with the adjacent sidings for ash wagons? Regards Bob Copyright Warwickshire Railways Edited March 7 by BobM 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted March 7 Author Share Posted March 7 As a ‘nod’ to dear old Leamington Spa a slight curve to the wagon road could be an added interest, although this was to accommodate the road away from the turntable no doubt in real life? Regards Bob 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 (edited) Evening guys, Apologies for the ‘drip’ technique of ideas and updates, it’s just how I feel comfortable getting back into the layout? The white area here in the foreground of the shed is where it’s the intention is to place the hard standing, possibly a concrete effect pad and have the two inspection pits outside. This exterior area will be done first for effect, prior to the interior of the shed. The ash pit area I’m comfortable with an hope this provides an appropriate and prototypical effect? Planning to take a trip over to Footplate Models in Kidderminster tomorrow, combining this with a ride ‘on the cushions’ from Bridgnorth and return! Regards always Bob Edited March 8 by BobM 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 Evening, Whilst my thought remains upon it, would it be appropriate to possibly incorporate either beside to coaling or engine shed, a GWR sand shed / furnace? Have seen theses within the MPD, the larger ones attached to the shed, whilst a free standing smaller structure sometimes by the coaling ramp? Something akin to this perhaps? Regards Bob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold GWR57xx Posted March 9 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9 10 hours ago, BobM said: Evening, Whilst my thought remains upon it, would it be appropriate to possibly incorporate either beside to coaling or engine shed, a GWR sand shed / furnace? Have seen theses within the MPD, the larger ones attached to the shed, whilst a free standing smaller structure sometimes by the coaling ramp? Something akin to this perhaps? Regards Bob Yes to all three questions Bob, and the pictured building looks very suitable. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted March 9 Author Share Posted March 9 My motive power for today! The revamped track work on pit in Bridgnorth yard Good guide to the depth of a pit too! Regards Bob 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
didcot Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) Didcots sand shed is just outside the shed. Edited March 9 by didcot 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted March 9 Author Share Posted March 9 (edited) Having to ‘slum’ it in the DMU on the return to Bridgnorth! Never mind. Have purchased one or two bit and bob’s from Footplate Models in Kidderminster for the layout, peco pits and acquired a Metcalf sand house for beside the engine shed, this more appropriate for the space, but also have a smaller kit for beside the coaling point, shown below and as previously mentioned. Regards Bob Edited March 9 by BobM 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 88C Posted March 9 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9 Good to see you back in action Bob Brian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted March 9 Author Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, 88C said: Good to see you back in action Bob Brian Thank you Brian, Good to be back, all you good guys have been very supportive. Regards Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted March 9 Author Share Posted March 9 Here’s the Metcalf larger sand furnace building beside my engine shed, looks okay and in scale to me? I believe this kit is no longer in production? Regards Bob 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted March 9 Author Share Posted March 9 Evening all, With continued thoughts on the engine shed area, and particularly pertaining to the fact I now have a sand building adjacent to it, would there still have been a smaller sand building close to the coaling stage, or would have to larger facilities have sufficed? Regards always Bob 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold GWR57xx Posted March 10 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10 There would only be one sand furnace, but you could use the larger one as a boiler house? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 (edited) Evening all, Hope all are well? For the immediate future I am planning to keep to the intention of having the larger sand furnace beside the engine shed as the sole provider of the required sand. I’m also working upon the following assumptions, which please correct if I am mistaken. Sand used for the specific purpose of providing additional traction wound have been brought into the yard by wagon. This would have been unloaded into a storage facility of some kind, here I am working on a grounded open wagon. The sand then being barrowed into the building where the furnace man would be responsible for keeping the fire going used to dry out the sand, and then keeping a full store of dry sand in suitable metal barrels or bins outside for the fireman to use (as he was responsible) for keeping the engine supplied? In that respect, on the layout the area beside the engine shed is looking like this…….. The sand furnace, a grounded wagon with sand from the arrived wagon delivery which would be taken into the furnace building for drying, yet to be done are the outside barrels ? Fair representation I hope? Regards always Bob Edited March 11 by BobM 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 (edited) Evening, Im perhaps getting a bit ahead of myself and not trying g to overreach my abilities but I would like to refine the engine shed too, initially to add vents or chimneys to the roof to provide added interest. I’m researching and hope to indicate what I presume were originally vertical, steel braced, wooden plank (asbestos board lined) constructed vents from the smoke hoods in the roof? Similar to these? Copyright Warwickshire Railways Regards Bob Edited March 11 by BobM 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold GWR57xx Posted March 12 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 12 The forest of exhaust chimney stacks was certainly a signature feature of the Churchward straight sheds. I think they might make your shed look a bit “busy” though as you have a ridge over each track, and the ridges already have roof vents over the tracks in line with the interior smoke chutes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 33 minutes ago, GWR57xx said: The forest of exhaust chimney stacks was certainly a signature feature of the Churchward straight sheds. I think they might make your shed look a bit “busy” though as you have a ridge over each track, and the ridges already have roof vents over the tracks in line with the interior smoke chutes. Hi Cheers my friend and I take your point. It may be going ‘overboard’ with chimneys on a vented roof over each road. My initial thought was to ‘enhance’ the entrance to the shed in some way, as it looks a bit basic, perhaps with a broader central brick column and corrugated work, it was here my mind got deflected onto chimneys? How to do this is still up in the air! Regards Bob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold GWR57xx Posted March 12 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 12 I think the inspection pits out front will be a great enhancement. You could perhaps add doors and the posts to hold them open? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 Hello all….. Just a few views of how the engine shed area is developing, I’m quite settled on the placement of the sand furnace and grounded wagon store of sand, unless you good guys can advise further tweaks to enhance? I am musing how to adapt the engine shed with doors at the moment but we will see? Regards always, Bob 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 Hi With regards to the ash pit on the coaling stage road, I have seen evidence of the facility being centred on the stage, or offset either side, I have a preference, (close to my home, there’s a small village called Claverley, where once there were three pubs right next to one another on a hill, referred to locally as ‘Top, Middle and Bottom’ so which wound you choose? Regards Bob 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortuga Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Which way are your locos facing when they go for coaling Bob? Tender or smoke box nearest the buffer stop? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold GWR57xx Posted March 13 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 13 8 hours ago, BobM said: ‘Top, Middle and Bottom’ so which wound you choose? I’d go for middle, I.e. centred on the coal loading flap, but if possible make it slightly longer (say 4 or 5 segments rather than the 3 shown?), that way (as @Tortuga says) it doesn’t matter which way the engines are facing they will still be over the pit. In practice engines would turn up in either direction depending where they’re coming from or going to. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 Using five sections slightly off centred outside the coaling stage, (may reduce to four) and three outside the engine shed? Regards Bob 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 (edited) Afternoon guys, Hope all are well? Having had a further think through ideas , indeed I have reduced the pit length by one section, which I think looks more appropriate? The two pits outside the shed look okay I think, and will remain? Thinking of a smaller two section pit on the one road off the turntable? Would it be ‘ pit overkill’ to place one on the road beside the coaling platform adjacent to the two ‘Kings’ here? Take care guys, Regards always, Bob Edited March 14 by BobM 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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