8th Dresden Dampfloktreffen 2016

[jonhall]

15th to 17^th of April in 2016

 

Official website

http://www.igbwdresdenaltstadt.de/index.php/en/9-englisch/189-8-dresdner-dampfloktreffen-2

 

Possible Dutch tour (with 01 1075? ) to the event

http://www.stoomstichting.nl/Display.php?Subject=EvenementenEnRitten&Language=NL

 

Last years event discussed on RM web

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/95090-dresden-damphfest/

 

 

Jon

[jonhall]

Just paid my deposit for the Rotterdam to Dresden tour

 

Alas the Saturday tour to Zittau seems to have been CAPEd due to engineering work - the train now double headed to Lobau instead.

 

Jon

[Mallarddriver]

Hello,

8 german locos and 3 foreign one will be there.

Among them these beautiful ladies:

 

 

 

I hope I´ll be able to make it there !!

 

Kind regards and Happy Easter

Soeren

[31A]

Hi all,

 

Just back from a weekend in Dresden, primarily to visit the Dampfloktreffen including riding on some of the main line special trains organised in connection with the event.  Despite the gloomy weather on the Saturday and Sunday, it was an impressive display and a very enjoyable experience, and thanks go to all those involved in making it all happen!

 

Here's a few of the pictures I took.  Obviously the event was very popular so it wasn't often practical to take 'loco portraits', and the weather certainly didn't help, but hopefully these give a flavour of the proceedings.  This first batch is of events in the roundhouse area, where there was an impressive line up of locos in steam at the front of the shed, and despite the crowds, movements were expertly choreographed via the turntable to and from the coaling crane and the running lines.

 

Umbrellas to the fore:

 

 

Everybody wanted their pictures taken in front of the two Czech visitors:

 

 

52 8154 seemed to have suffered some kind of minor failure on its main line run, leading to rapid shunting of locomotives for the return from Freiberg (Sachs) to Dresden; once on shed, attention seemed to focus on the turbo generator.  The outward journey from Dresden had involved a lengthy stretch of parallel running with the 2-10-2T 95 1027 (from the Rübelandbahn) on a demonstration freight train; here the two locos are reunited on shed.

 

 

 

Here 52 8154 takes a spin on the turntable; quite a 'timeless' shot.

 

 

Followed by 01 1519

 

 

The coalman must have one of the filthiest and most dangerous jobs on the railway, having to manoeuvre the coaling crane's grab into position over the tender.

 

 

More smartly attired crew look warm and comfortable in the commodious cab. 

 

 

A couple of 'atmospheric' shots inside the roundhouse.

 

 

 

Even the 'out of use' locos were smartly presented; here displayed outdoors at the back of the shed is the unusual 4-6-4T Express Passenger tank.

 

 

I'll put some more up later, showing some of the exhibits elsewhere on the site.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ColinK]

Nice pictures. I've only been to one Plandampf which was several years ago. The trains were so full (think Indian commuter trains) it wasn't enjoyable. Torrential rain meant linesiding wasn't practical too (and probably contributed to the overcrowed trains). That put me off going again. Was I just unlucky, or was this event overcrowded too?

[31A]

Nice pictures. I've only been to one Plandampf which was several years ago. The trains were so full (think Indian commuter trains) it wasn't enjoyable. Torrential rain meant linesiding wasn't practical too (and probably contributed to the overcrowed trains). That put me off going again. Was I just unlucky, or was this event overcrowded too?

 

Thank you, glad you like them - I'll put some more up later!

 

As you can see, the main event was well patronised, which was good for the event.  Myself and my travelling companion rode on three of the main line steam specials which had been organised for the event.  We hadn't booked in advance - the organisers had advertised that you could pay on the train, which we did.  On the first train (Saturday morning), we easily got a bay of four seats to ourselves in a coach near the back of the train; as the train was 'top and tailed' we didn't realise it was the back of the train until it started!  On the Sunday morning train, we initially sat in seats which had been reserved (there was nothing to indicate this), but after being 'bounced' twice we again found a bay of four to ourselves.  The busiest train seemed to be the Sunday afternoon; the departure platform at Dresden Hbf was packed when we arrived, and we got in at the Buffet Car and had a beer and bratwurst while things calmed down; once refreshed we set off in search of seats and found a whole compartment to ourselves towards the rear (which was the front on the return journey).  The same set of coaches was used for each train; I didn't count them but there must have been about a dozen, except on the Sunday afternoon where the formation seemed to have been reduced by about three (we passed the detached coaches in the carriage sidings), probably due to the gradients on the route it took.

[jonhall]

The event on Saturday was much busier that I'd seen it on previous years, but then I may have been on a Friday before. The SSN tour was very well organised, although it only did Rotterdam - Monchengladbach with 01 1075 and Leipzig-Dresden with an 03 pacific, with the section in the middle using a preserved electric.

 

Jon

[31A]

Zwickauer Strasse, which runs parallel to the railway past the depot area, was closed to road traffic for the event.  A 'Feldbahn' (contractors portable narrow gauge line) was set up on the verge to take people from one end to the other.  However the street was also lined with stalls selling railway memorabilia, books and model railway equipment, such as you might find at a Toy Fair or Swapmeet.  I browsed some of the stalls, but nothing caught my eye.  Next to the roundhouse is the modern DB Regio depot which was open to visitors but only contained some of the modern rolling stock used locally.  In this area was also displayed an elderly Czech diesel loco and a couple of coaches.

 

Next came a smaller roundhouse building; the public weren't allowed in and from the outside it looked as though the roof might be in some disrepair, however displayed outside was a DR OHLE inspection railcar and 0-8-0T 92 503 (Prussian Class T13).

 

 

 

Beyond that, the next building housed some of the Dresden Transport Museum collection, including the preserved Prussian S10 class express passenger 4-6-0 (DRG Class 17); this is nicely restored in Prussian livery but (like the other rolling stock in the building) was virtually impossible to photograph.  Also on display were several model railway layouts of varying types, and a temporary miniature railway circulated in front of the building.

 

Outside this building several locos were on display in an area of parallel lines connected by a traverser.

 

 

 

 

 

On the running line between here and the roundhouse, locos were running back and forth; while I was there these were 2-10-0 50 350 and the Romanian tank engine 2-6-2T 131.060

 

 

 

 

 

[ColinK]

Thanks for more nice pictures. Good to see the old East German diesels on display too.

[Horsetan]

....Followed by 01 1519

 

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01 519 is quite superb, and has had a quite chequered history. Hard to remember that it spent most of the 1980s as a coal-fired stationary steam engine on a plinth at the Greifswald Brewery, along with three other withdrawn 01.5s. They had stopped supplying steam in 1988 and were very decrepit by February 1989, 01 519 being the sole survivor of the quartet. The others were cut up on site.

 

...Even the 'out of use' locos were smartly presented; here displayed outdoors at the back of the shed is the unusual 4-6-4T Express Passenger tank.

 

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The Br.62 is often referred to as the tank version of the Br.03; I think it shares the same boiler and a few other components.

[31A]

The Br.62 is often referred to as the tank version of the Br.03; I think it shares the same boiler and a few other components.

 

 

Interesting you should say that; on a previous visit to Dresden I was talking to a German enthusiast who referred to it as a 'tank engine version of a Pacific' or words to that effect but I don't think he said which Pacific.  However on looking at dimensions given in my trusty 'Taschenbuch Deutsche Dampflokomotiven', I find it hard to understand as compared with an 03, the driving wheels are smaller, the boiler pressure is lower, the cylinder diameter is slightly bigger and the HP output is also lower (and so is the max speed).  So I'm sure there probably is some connection, but I'm not quite sure what it is!  However it's a fine looking engine and it would be nice to think that it might be restored to working order again one day.

 

I'll put some more pictures up later, mainly of the main line steam trips I did while I was there.

[31A]

Early on the Saturday morning at Dresden Hbf:

 

 

52 8154 is brewing up nicely on a long and mixed rake of coaches, with another steam engine at the other end.  Without checking which way the train would go, we boarded a couple of coaches down from 8154, and the rear of the train.

 

 

Reason for taking this train was to experience the 'parallel running' with 95 1027 on the scenic and steeply graded section of line between Tharandt and Klingenberg-Colmnitz, en route to Freiberg (Sachs.).   Impressive, but not the easiest thing to take pictures of!

 

 

 

 

This last shot gives an idea of the length of the rake of coaches used on the specials, with 01 2118 in the distance at the head of the train.

 

 

Arrived at Freiburg, we were able to admire the 01 from the formerly-longer platform.

 

 

At this point, it was planned to return to Dresden 'top and tailed' (without turning the engines), and the 01's headlamps have already been changed to red aspects.  However a few minutes before departure time there was a mild panic among the railway staff, and the 01 was rapidly uncoupled and run round, to be coupled in front of the 52.  In view of the attention being given to the 52's generator when back on shed, I wondered whether it had suffered an electrical failure.

 

So we went back to Dresden double headed; the return journey being interrupted for a few minutes outside the Hauptbahnhof by what seemed to be an 'unsolicited brake demand' of some sort, in a rather embarrassing situation:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mallarddriver]

Hello,

here is one of the numerous videos :

 

 

Kind regards

 

Soeren

[31A]

Thanks for posting the video, Soeren!  Good to see the Tharandt ramp parallel running from the lineside, and also interesting to see the Decin train (which I didn't ride on), and the shots of the locos making their way to Dresden.

[31A]

The Sunday morning's train was advised as being double headed headed by 35 1019 and 50 3648; however only 50 3648 turned up and I don't think 35 1019 (or 23 1019 depending on your point of view) was ever at the event.  In any case, I didn't see it which was slightly disappointing as I don't think I've ever seen an East German Class 23.  The train headed for Senftenberg via Kamenz and Hosena, the line from Kamenz to Hosena being freight-only.  At Senftenberg, the loco was detached and headed off  to an out of sight depot which presumably has a turntable as it returned some time later facing in the opposite direction, to take the train back to Dresden via Ortrand and Cossebaude.  Consequently, it was difficult to get any good pictures on this trip; these were the best I could do.

 

 

 

Returned to Dresden, at the Hauptbahnhof modern Czech and German motive power was in evidence for the Berlin-Praha service which seems to change locos here:

 

 

The Sunday afternoon's trip was rather more interesting, and was top & tailed by 50 3648 and 52 8154.  Having followed the route of S3 to Freiberg (Sachs.), we branched off onto the very secondary line to Nossen.  Not owned by DB Netz, with passenger traffic and in fact no freight traffic either - "Nur Museumsbetrieb" one of the train's stewards advised, although there wasn't much sign of that either.  A lengthy stop was scheduled at Grossvoigtsberg, where there was a small diesel shunter and a couple of goods vans, apparently under restoration.

 

 

 

The station building contained a small railway museum, with a display of signalling and P-Way equipment, and other 'small exhibits' and memorabilia.  I'm not sure whether this was the lever frame which belonged here, or had been brought from elsewhere for display (there was another on display to my right):

 

 

The station was signalled, and the signal wires led off towards the station building; however the signal arms had crosses on them.

 

 

 

The right hand of the two rusty lines was the one our train was travelling on.

 

 

And 50 3648's driver adopted the customary pose.

 

 

At Nossen, the small roundhouse loco depot is a museum, and some of its contents were on display.  However we were advised that the stop would be short so we didn't alight, although others did.  Evidently Nossen lost its passenger service altogether last December when the Meissen-Dobeln line closed to passenger traffic.  Despite this, it didn't give the impression of being a closed station and in fact the infrastructure appeared to have seen some fairly recent investment!

 

 

We returned to Dresden by the same route, 52 8154 leading this time and finding the gradients quite a challenge on the line back to Freiberg - I got the impression the rear loco might not always have been assisting, to make things more 'interesting'!

 

This was our conveyance for the afternoon:

 

 

 

The above picture being intended to show the infiltration of steam from the heating system!

 

At Dresden Hbf, two locos were displayed statically in one of the low level terminal platforms, Pacific 03 001 and the Saxon 2-8-2 express loco 19 017.

 

 

 

So that was about it for us as far as the Dampfloktreffen was concerned; the next day we took a ride on the Radeburg-Radebeuel narrow gauge line, a 'cultural' trip to Meissen (where the 1930s station building looked as though it had come out of Trix box, and well worth a look), and a ride over the highly scenic Heidenau-Altenberg line, originally also narrow gauge but converted to standard in the 1930s.

 

 

 

 

 

[Allegheny1600]

Looks like you had a wonderful time, I wish I could have been there too.

Many thanks for the pictures, a "like" seems an inadequate way to express sufficient admiration for the trip.

Cheers,

John

[31A]

Looks like you had a wonderful time, I wish I could have been there too.

Many thanks for the pictures, a "like" seems an inadequate way to express sufficient admiration for the trip.

Cheers,

John

 

 

Thank you John, very kind of you to say so and glad you liked the pictures!  It was the first time I'd attended this event, and hoping that it will be repeated next year, I'd certainly recommend a visit if you can do so.

[Horsetan]

The Saxon BR.19s were the "Pride of Saxony" (Sachsenstolz), and 19.017 is owes its survival to being one of four such engines which were commandeered by the research and testing department at Halle, used mainly for brake tests. Two of the quartet, 19.015 and 19.022, were reboilered with modern Reko boilers under the direction of Max Baumberg, but were cut up in 1975.

 

Will 19.017 ever steam again, or is it considered too old now?

[31A]

It would be nice to think that it might, but I've really no idea.  I would say though, as I mentioned previously, like the other out of use locos, it was displayed in very good condition.  Presumably it must at least be a 'rolling chassis' as the locos on display at the Hauptbahnhof were taken there on their own wheels.

[Bernard Lamb]

 

 

At Nossen, the small roundhouse loco depot is a museum, and some of its contents were on display.  However we were advised that the stop would be short so we didn't alight, although others did.  Evidently Nossen lost its passenger service altogether last December when the Meissen-Dobeln line closed to passenger traffic.  Despite this, it didn't give the impression of being a closed station and in fact the infrastructure appeared to have seen some fairly recent investment!

Thanks for the photos. Another case of the thanks or like box being ticked is not sufficient for a response.

The reference to Dobeln is what does it for me as the old family home was in Sweinig, two or three kms down the road.

The family farm was confiscated in 1953 but we eventually got it back after the wall came down.

I never had much of a chance to travel their by train in the area, other than on the main line Leipzig-Dresden but I did get to Trebsen and Colditz on occasion back in steam days.

Bernard

 

 

 

[31A]

Thanks Bernard, glad you enjoyed the pictures and good to hear of your connection with the area.  On the Monday after the Dampfloktreffen we visited the Radebuel-Radeburg narrow gauge line then continued on S-Bahn line S1 to its terminus at Meissen Triebischtal, which is now the end of the line for passenger trains but when we arrived one of the new DB diesels (Voith Gravita type) was bringing a long train of tank wagons off the Dobeln line.  It was a lovely ride on the narrow gauge line in Spring sunshine, and Meissen is a beautiful town which I'd certainly recommend for a touristic type visit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[jazz]

Fabulous photos, many thanks for posting them, really enjoyed them all.

[31A]

Thanks, glad you liked them!

[Horsetan]

Having looked at the photos again, I'm being distracted by Roco's model of the DR 01.5 - it looks so tempting.

[31A]

Having looked at the photos again, I'm being distracted by Roco's model of the DR 01.5 - it looks so tempting.

 

In case you need any further encouragement, here's one I monochromed earlier:

 

 

Apart from anything else, this makes the "Märklin" insignia on the tender less obvious!