coachmann Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) An ex.GWR snow-plough-fitted 2251 0-6-0 was sent to Llandudno Junction for such work, but I wonder if it ever traversed the line most in need of snow clearance, namely the Conway Valley line to Blaenau Ffestiniog. We probably forget that a number of Austerity 2-8-0's carried snow plough's all year round. I saw them on lines around Oldham and over the Pennines. Edited February 12, 2018 by coachmann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdaley Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) Rails having a flash sale on the Deans Goods. https://railsofsheffield.com/ Edited February 12, 2018 by amdaley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Rails having a flash sale on the Deans Goods. https://railsofsheffield.com/ Do any models actually carry that shape of cab cut out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted February 12, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2018 Do any models actually carry that shape of cab cut out? IMG_9296JUN17.jpg Yes, the lined version does have it. Here it is compared to the Mainline DG cab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p8kpev Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Rails having a flash sale on the Deans Goods. https://railsofsheffield.com/ At that lovely price, it's time to buy a couple more and get on with a renumbering exercise. A fleet of Dean Goods! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Do any models actually carry that shape of cab cut out? IMG_9296JUN17.jpg Oxford cabs compared 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 12, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) At that lovely price, it's time to buy a couple more and get on with a renumbering exercise. A fleet of Dean Goods! If you looked in Bargain Hunters you would have noticed I posted Ian Allan in Birmingham who have(had) them at £70 Keith Edited February 12, 2018 by melmerby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2018 At that lovely price, it's time to buy a couple more and get on with a renumbering exercise. A fleet of Dean Goods! Have a look at the March issue of 'Model Rail' and see what CJL has done with one - brilliant stuff and the sort of railway modelling many of us who are old enough remember from the past. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Hattons have now got the Plain Green version in stock... http://www.hattons.co.uk/173657/Oxford_Rail_OR76DG003_Class_2301_Dean_Goods_0_6_0_2475_in_Great_Western_green/StockDetail.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Stannard Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Hattons have now got the Plain Green version in stock... http://www.hattons.co.uk/173657/Oxford_Rail_OR76DG003_Class_2301_Dean_Goods_0_6_0_2475_in_Great_Western_green/StockDetail.aspx I got an email 6 hours ago informing me the latest bite to my credit card had just been taken, mind you I have only been waiting for a year for it to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) Which era is this colour scheme ie. what years does it cover ? https://railsofsheffield.com/products/30371/oxford-rail-or76dg001-oo-gauge-dean-goods-2309-gwr Edited February 15, 2018 by brian777999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandc_au Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Which era is this colour scheme ie. what years does it cover ? https://railsofsheffield.com/products/30371/oxford-rail-or76dg001-oo-gauge-dean-goods-2309-gwr Brian, If you scroll down a bit further it lists the era/s. in this case they list it as era's 2&3, effectively 1875 - 1947 Khris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Stannard Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Which era is this colour scheme ie. what years does it cover ? https://railsofsheffield.com/products/30371/oxford-rail-or76dg001-oo-gauge-dean-goods-2309-gwr Roughly you are looking at between 1906 and the beginning of the First World War, after then liveries became more simplified to save on costs and resources, during the war repainting was kept to a minimum and after that lining was reseved mainly for express passenger locomotives, the Garter on the tender lasted up until the mid to late 1920’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Which era is this colour scheme ie. what years does it cover ? https://railsofsheffield.com/products/30371/oxford-rail-or76dg001-oo-gauge-dean-goods-2309-gwr It depends if this bothers you, but this model has a top feed which adds a limit to the colour scheme dates as they only began to be fitted in the immediate pre WW! years, approx 1913. Mike Wiltshire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) It depends if this bothers you, but this model has a top feed which adds a limit to the colour scheme dates as they only began to be fitted in the immediate pre WW! years, approx 1913. Mike Wiltshire A real minefield : model railways is not for pedants ! Edited February 15, 2018 by brian777999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Stannard Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 A real minefield : model railways is not for pedants ! Not unless you don't mind doing things such as back dating Pannier tanks to pre 1943 condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p8kpev Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 That reminds me to ask a question that has been rattling in the back of my head: when and how did the simplification of livery during the war take place? (Okay, that's two questions.) Was the decision taken upon declaration of war or sometime later, when the prospect for a short conflict had vanished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 That reminds me to ask a question that has been rattling in the back of my head: when and how did the simplification of livery during the war take place? (Okay, that's two questions.) Was the decision taken upon declaration of war or sometime later, when the prospect for a short conflict had vanished? Lining of some, perhaps many, DGs ceased as early as 1904/5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted February 15, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2018 Lining of some, perhaps many, DGs ceased as early as 1904/5. Went out with indian red frames, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Went out with indian red frames, then? That is my understanding yes. Oxford's 2309 is as historically accurate as an American war movie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 That is my understanding yes. Oxford's 2309 is as historically accurate as an American war movie. Then why on Earth did they produce it ? Surely they research this sort of thing before it even gets to the earliest stage of design/planning ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppercap Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Then why on Earth did they produce it ? Surely they research this sort of thing before it even gets to the earliest stage of design/planning ? We've now reached 67 pages on the subject of this Dean Goods, much (most?) of it covering it's inaccuracies, and you're asking the question now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigw Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Then why on Earth did they produce it ? Surely they research this sort of thing before it even gets to the earliest stage of design/planning ? Because it looks pretty. Oxford seemed unaware that the Dean goods had two different footplate widths which also had detail differences. Add to that the variation in cabs and a myriad of other differences. I know some bemoan the fact that GWR modellers are a bunch of pedants, but all of this information was readily available. regards, Craig W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 One good thing about the distress sale of the Angry Caterpillar is I will be able to pick one up for the Dolgellau layout at a price that suits our resources. And hand it to our resident GWR expert modeller and detailer in chief to repaint into something more sensible. Fortunately Joe and Joanna Numpty and the Little Numpties who come to see our exhibition wouldn't know if the cab is correct and most certainly won't spot the washout plugs in the wrong place so I think we're safe on that count, and if I can pick up a noisy one at a fire-sale price all the better. They love to hear noise, the more the train toots (or clangs in the case of the auto-coach) the more donations we get. On a serious note, I must admit I was surprised to see the pictures of the plain green Dean on Hattons today, which seemed to, dare I mention it, look as if they had done something to the cab cut out to correct the problems highlighted on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) Went out with indian red frames, then? More a sort of coincidence, in my view. The red to black change was policy, whereas the cessation of lining for non-express passenger locos and goods locos was more adhoc and reflected the constraints of Swindon's resources - improve them mechanically, get 'em out and get them running earning some money was the priority, and besides which, there was always a string of further locos earmarked for alterations and updates. The works were very busy, and outgoing locos didn't have to look pretty. Pretty was so 1890s... Edited February 16, 2018 by Miss Prism 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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