Edwardian Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 The plan is once I dismantle the chassis I should be able to cut the front along the dotted line shown below, this will remove most of what in the space under the boiler, with just a small bit of the motor protruding in front of the tanks. 2017-06-29 17.18.44.jpg Once this is done I can cut out the under boiler space on the body and construct a false body as I have done previously with the Tri-anf 3F's. I will then fill the boiler / smokebox area with lead to replace the weight that I have removed but cutting the chassis. Gary That should do it! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Midland Mole Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) [Off topic] Gary I wanted some advice from our resident LB&SCR guru. We just got into the shop a OO model of a B1 class (not sure if it is kitbuilt or scratchbuilt) and I think it looks good, plus it runs fine. The only thing wrong with it, that I know of, is one of the tender steps is missing. I wanted to know if you think it looks any good/accurate, or whether you think I should avoid it? Sorry about the terrible picture, it was done in a hurry Alex Edited July 7, 2017 by Midland Mole 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted July 7, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) Alex, I would guess that it is the GEM kit, and if you don't take it home you should put it in a box for me!!! Honestly, if I could have afforded the GEM kit when I started mine then I never would have scratch built one. Take it home and love it!! (or send it to me, seriously PM me if you don't want it) Gary Also I'm flattered that I should be considered an LB&SCR Guru, there are people on this forum much better at it than me!! Hopefully one day I shall be up to similar standards of both knowledge and modelling as them!! Edited July 7, 2017 by BlueLightning 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Midland Mole Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) Thanks for that Gary. I did not know if anyone did the B1 in kit form, so you are most likely right about it being GEM. I have it put on one side and will get next Friday as it sounds kosher. Then I will have to decide if I leave it as it or repainting into LB&SC livery. But if I do end up not doing anything with it, I would definitely look at finding her a new home. Somewhere like, oooh I don't know....Hailsham? Alex Edit: And I will try to get some better pics of her when she is safely home. Edited July 7, 2017 by Midland Mole 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted July 7, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2017 Sounds like a good plan Alex, and although mine is in IEG I do think they look very smart in Brighton Umber If she does ever need a new home then Hailsham sounds like a lovely place!! I will look forward to seeing some more pics of her. Gary 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Midland Mole Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 I always remember the first time I saw Gladstone as a young boy at the NRM.....I fell in love! Such an impressive loco, in such a beautiful livery. It just oozed presence and class. Locos like Gladstone, Hardwicke and the Midland Compound are what instilled a love of all things pre-grouping in me from such a young age. Alex 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted July 7, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2017 The Midland Compound, a beautiful locomotive. I have 2 models of it!! Gary 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgundy Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 We just got into the shop a OO model of a B1 class (not sure if it is kitbuilt or scratchbuilt) and I think it looks good, plus it runs fine. The only thing wrong with it, that I know of, is one of the tender steps is missing. I wanted to know if you think it looks any good/accurate, or whether you think I should avoid it? LBSCR B1.JPG Alex Alex If the loco is built in whitemetal, then Gary is almost certainly correct. The Gem Gladstone dates back to the 1960s(?) and is not a bad model for that vintage. If it is brass, then it is either scratch built or an Albion kit. The thickness of the Salter balances and the tender coping suggest whitemetal and therefore Gem. I had one that got converted into a Richmond - a slightly smaller diameter boiler and shorter firebox. Hope this helps Best wishes Eric 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted July 7, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2017 I'm flattered that I should be considered an LB&SCR Guru, there are people on this forum much better at it than me!! Hopefully one day I shall be up to similar standards of both knowledge and modelling as them!! Alex If the loco is built in whitemetal, then Gary is almost certainly correct. The Gem Gladstone dates back to the 1960s(?) and is not a bad model for that vintage. If it is brass, then it is either scratch built or an Albion kit. The thickness of the Salter balances and the tender coping suggest whitemetal and therefore Gem. I had one that got converted into a Richmond - a slightly smaller diameter boiler and shorter firebox. P1010061.JPG Hope this helps Best wishes Eric Told Ya!! I forgot there even was an Albion kit of the B1!! Gary 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Midland Mole Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Alex If the loco is built in whitemetal, then Gary is almost certainly correct. The Gem Gladstone dates back to the 1960s(?) and is not a bad model for that vintage. If it is brass, then it is either scratch built or an Albion kit. The thickness of the Salter balances and the tender coping suggest whitemetal and therefore Gem. I had one that got converted into a Richmond - a slightly smaller diameter boiler and shorter firebox. Hope this helps Best wishes Eric From the feel of the loco, it is definitely whitemetal. And you are right about it looking good for it's age if the kit is that old. Your loco is stunning, really impressive. I think I do prefer the IEG to the Umber livery (although I still hope Bachmann do the H2 in Umber one day). Alex 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted July 7, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2017 (although I still hope Bachmann do the H2 in Umber one day). They have to actually release it first!! 3 month delay!! I want it now!! Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 From the feel of the loco, it is definitely whitemetal. And you are right about it looking good for it's age if the kit is that old. Your loco is stunning, really impressive. I think I do prefer the IEG to the Umber livery (although I still hope Bachmann do the H2 in Umber one day). Alex The seem to have tooled for the 'as built' condition, so why not drop them a line and ask when we'll see it? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebell Model Railway Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 When the first tooled sample came out there was certainly some parts on there for LBSC condition, if they do one I probably would expect it to be a collectors club model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted July 8, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 8, 2017 I think you are right Matt, and it annoys me that I will probably have to join the collectors club to get the LBSC model!! I have already cleared it with the misses that I can so it's not a problem but I am not interested in anything else from the collectors club, and I would not be joining it otherwise. That means for me I will be paying a £29 premium to be allowed to buy the model. So unless it is at a reduced rate from the standard model it will be quite an expensive purchase!! Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Hi Gary.... You also get a Wagon.....and four quite informative magazines as well....good quality too! Also a good callender (The last few have been paintings of trains...), also the Bachmann catalogue as well..... So, not such a bad bargain? I joined for the Bachmann history series of articles, fitting nem pockets to rolling stock series, and the POOL tank wagon was the wagon of the year....still signed up, so I now have a couple of tank wagons, and a Horlicks PO Open Wagon.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted July 8, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 8, 2017 Hi Sarah, I have the POOL tank wagon! I found it in the model shop for a tenner so thought I had best take it home. If the wagon on offer when I join is able to be used on either Oak Hill or Hailsham then yes that would be a bonus and sweeten the deal a bit! And the Calender will get used as well, especially if it has trains on it!! However with over 200 MRJ's to work through I don't think I have time for any more reading material!! :jester: Gary 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 If joining the Collectors' Club is the supplement for a LB&SCR Atlantic, I'll happily subscribe. Quite a choice. IIRC some went into service in undercoat. One went into service in lined photographic grey. Imagine that; a brace of these, one in grey and one in umber!l 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted July 8, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 8, 2017 I'm already going to have the L Class in photographic grey. How many unpainted locos can I get away with!? Gary 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 I'm already going to have the L Class in photographic grey. How many unpainted locos can I get away with!? Gary Three, if you go for the first K Class in 1913. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted July 8, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 8, 2017 And here's me modelling pre-grouping because its colourful!! Now I need 3 locos in grey!! Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 And here's me modelling pre-grouping because its colourful!! Now I need 3 locos in grey!! Gary Oh, I don't know. For me variety is as important as colour, and there are quite a number of shades of grey, apparently. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted July 9, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9, 2017 I've heard is somewhere in the high 40's, I could be a few out though!! I was discussing this with my brother earlier. He says modelling this early all my locos should be grey as that's what you see in the photos!!! :jester: Gary 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted July 9, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2017 I've heard is somewhere in the high 40's, I could be a few out though!! I was discussing this with my brother earlier. He says modelling this early all my locos should be grey as that's what you see in the photos!!! :jester: Gary Burntisland 1883 was at the Warley show the other year. I commented that although all the North British engines were green, no two were the same shade. The gentleman with whom I was speaking admitted that this was because (a) this was how things had been and (b) no-one was really sure. But then he did admit to being primarily a Caledonian enthusiast... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted July 9, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9, 2017 A bit like my locos then!! I have 2 shades of Brighton Umber, 3 shades of IEG and 2 shades of SECR green on the layout!! Although the odd one out of the SECR will get repainted to match at some point!! Gary 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 ........... But then he did admit to being primarily a Caledonian enthusiast... And let's not get into discussing CR blue!! (I've a good idea who that gentleman might have been) Jim 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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