Shadow Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) A bit of a close up, thats about 10ft away, it's a large layout!! It's built to scale I think I overheard one of the operators saying! Edited January 29, 2018 by Shadow 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 It's built to scale I think I overheard one of the operators saying! It is. It started life as an entry for the S4 society '1884' challenge some years ago, which it won! Jim 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted January 29, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29, 2018 It is. It started life as an entry for the S4 society '1884' challenge some years ago, which it won! Jim A bit of gauge widening there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nick_bastable Posted January 29, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) Yes, the Baker’s liquid acid stuff is much more fun, you can breathe it in, go round all your trains with emery paper cleaning the rust off the wheels and axles, descale the bit before every session, and generally have a whale of a time! Fluxite, piff! but you miss the fun do you drink the flux instead of the tea by mistake while impaling yourself on the naked (yes i said that) Stanley knife blade? sorry too many really nice models are starting to appear not that I have any doubt CA will be a tour de force Nick Edited January 29, 2018 by nick_bastable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted January 30, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2018 Oh, and the other big plus with the acid is you can spill it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted January 30, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2018 Oh, and the other big plus with the acid is you can spill it! When Brian Lewis was running C+L he commented that the phosphoric acid supplied to him was marked food grade so I assume you could drink it although probably needs to be diluted. Some of these 'soft drinks' have enough in them to be used as flux if it wasn't for the sugar content. Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Phosphoric acid is wonderful stuff. As well as being a constituent of various colas, it'll dissolve tooth enamel and can be used to selectively reduce the diameter of stainless steel wire! At least the brand-leading cola stopped incorporating cocaine in its formula in 1904........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Just uploaded some videos of Burntisland to youtube. A bit wobbly in some! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Sorry to bring it almost back "On Topic", it is Victorian not Edwardian, so not totally back! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted January 30, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2018 I can watch any amount of that. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 Wonderful to see those Burntisland videos. Thank you for posting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edwardian Posted January 30, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2018 Oh, by the way, I nearly forgot ... Happy Second Anniversary to the Castle Aching Parishioners A very big 'thank you' for sticking with me. I feel my motivation has been sustained and renewed by the continued liveliness of this topic and I trust that it will not be long now before we start the trains running. 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 'Ere, Mista 'Dwardan, didn't yer say that last year? Still, I look forward to the next year and seeing some trains moving! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Who is this Hamilton-Ellis fellow? Have him sent to my office immediately for severe caning. He got a rivet wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 Who is this Hamilton-Ellis fellow? Have him sent to my office immediately for severe caning. He got a rivet wrong. Oh I don't know. This is evidently a picture of C Class number 5, a Sharp Stewart build of 1894. She is a little out of period in this condition for CA. She features the Whittaker tablet exchange apparatus forward on the tender side, which was fitted 1907-1908. She should sport the 1903 Midland lamp iron arrangement, and the picture certainly does not show the previous arrangement, but if I am not mistaken, there should be an iron in the centre of the buffer beam, which I do not see. The most significant visual change was the fitting of a Deeley extended smoke box to the original Johnson 'slim' boiler. Hamilton Ellis represents the Deeley chimney, which had a pronounced capuchin not found on the original chimneys. The dished smoke-box door seems to have been retained, and Essery features a picture of No.46 with an extended smoke-box and dished door. The extended smoke-boxes were fitted sporadically to class members from 1907, but in the case of No.5, the alteration dates from 1911. This seems broadly consistent with the stock. Significant numbers of relatively modern GNR 6-wheelers were drafted in in 1903, and this shot shows a uniformity of appearance that was perhaps not so characteristic just a few years before. No.5 is in the standardised livery common from 1900, which appears to have continued unaltered in the Cs, save for details affecting those rebuilt with H or G7 class boilers, until 1929, when brown was introduced. So, potentially the picture represents No.5 in service 1911-1928, though, if you can be sure of such a detail in the painting, the apparent absence of Midland 2" brass power classification "1" in the case of the C Class - on the upper cab side-sheet, would revise that range to 1911-1923. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Cuthbert Hamilton-Ellis seems to have gone to great pains to get the details in his paintings correct, but it would be a miracle if he was able to 'nail' every single point. He seems to have been one of that breed of railwayac that barely exists any longer, and my favourite thing that I've read about him was how he had a bash at being an espionage agent at the outbreak of WW2. He tried to gather information about German logistical support train movements through Switzerland and seems to have made a total cods of it, and was evidently distracted by model train shops, because he mentions in one of his books seeing a Hornby Dubo A4 on sale. I've got an inkling that he lived somewhere near the SECR at Knockholt, so if The Other Layout takes off, Edwardian can probably justify having a model of him, with easel, on the station (actually, I reckon he worked at home, from photos and a good knowledge of liveries, looking at the style). PS: thinking further, since he wasn't born until 1909, he can't appear on The Other Layout, except, perhaps, as a twinkle in his parents' eyes. Edited January 31, 2018 by Nearholmer 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonB Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Cuthbert Hamilton-Ellis seems to have gone to great pains to get the details in his paintings correct, but it would be a miracle if he was able to 'nail' every single point. He seems to have been one of that breed of railwayac that barely exists any longer, and my favourite thing that I've read about him was how he had a bash at being an espionage agent at the outbreak of WW2. He tried to gather information about German logistical support train movements through Switzerland and seems to have made a total cods of it, and was evidently distracted by model train shops, because he mentions in one of his books seeing a Hornby Dubo A4 on sale. I've got an inkling that he lived somewhere near the SECR at Knockholt, so if The Other Layout takes off, Edwardian can probably justify having a model of him, with easel, on the station (actually, I reckon he worked at home, from photos and a good knowledge of liveries, looking at the style). PS: thinking further, since he wasn't born until 1909, he can't appear on The Other Layout, except, perhaps, as a twinkle in his parents' eyes. Can't see how that personal "twinkle" feature could be modelled... perhaps a challenge for the parishioners for the upcoming Vallentine's Day? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Optical fibre? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 Cuthbert Hamilton-Ellis seems to have gone to great pains to get the details in his paintings correct, but it would be a miracle if he was able to 'nail' every single point. He seems to have been one of that breed of railwayac that barely exists any longer, and my favourite thing that I've read about him was how he had a bash at being an espionage agent at the outbreak of WW2. He tried to gather information about German logistical support train movements through Switzerland and seems to have made a total cods of it, and was evidently distracted by model train shops, because he mentions in one of his books seeing a Hornby Dubo A4 on sale. I've got an inkling that he lived somewhere near the SECR at Knockholt, so if The Other Layout takes off, Edwardian can probably justify having a model of him, with easel, on the station (actually, I reckon he worked at home, from photos and a good knowledge of liveries, looking at the style). PS: thinking further, since he wasn't born until 1909, he can't appear on The Other Layout, except, perhaps, as a twinkle in his parents' eyes. Can't see how that personal "twinkle" feature could be modelled... perhaps a challenge for the parishioners for the upcoming Vallentine's Day? Well, I suspect the running period of the Other Layout will be fairly generous, and extend up to at least 1914, so it is just possible that a lad of very tender years spotting an L Class on a down Hastings express might be the Young Cuthbert on the run from the Nursery! Meanwhile, up North, the snow has started again and the sheep are not impressed: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Who is this Hamilton-Ellis fellow? Have him sent to my office immediately for severe caning. He got a rivet wrong. What rivet? Its as smooth as a... ummm... thing that is very smooth! Cuthbert Hamilton-Ellis seems to have gone to great pains to get the details in his paintings correct, but it would be a miracle if he was able to 'nail' every single point. He seems to have been one of that breed of railwayac that barely exists any longer, and my favourite thing that I've read about him was how he had a bash at being an espionage agent at the outbreak of WW2. He tried to gather information about German logistical support train movements through Switzerland and seems to have made a total cods of it, and was evidently distracted by model train shops, because he mentions in one of his books seeing a Hornby Dubo A4 on sale. I've got an inkling that he lived somewhere near the SECR at Knockholt, so if The Other Layout takes off, Edwardian can probably justify having a model of him, with easel, on the station (actually, I reckon he worked at home, from photos and a good knowledge of liveries, looking at the style). PS: thinking further, since he wasn't born until 1909, he can't appear on The Other Layout, except, perhaps, as a twinkle in his parents' eyes. Enough of that, we can't have any twinkling going on here! And finally, Mr Ed. Congrats - glad to think we've been able to drive you to the modelling bench, if only to get away from all the rambling here! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted January 31, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2018 Cuthbert Hamilton-Ellis seems to have gone to great pains to get the details in his paintings correct, but it would be a miracle if he was able to 'nail' every single point. He seems to have been one of that breed of railwayac that barely exists any longer, and my favourite thing that I've read about him was how he had a bash at being an espionage agent at the outbreak of WW2. He tried to gather information about German logistical support train movements through Switzerland and seems to have made a total cods of it, and was evidently distracted by model train shops, because he mentions in one of his books seeing a Hornby Dubo A4 on sale. I've got an inkling that he lived somewhere near the SECR at Knockholt, so if The Other Layout takes off, Edwardian can probably justify having a model of him, with easel, on the station (actually, I reckon he worked at home, from photos and a good knowledge of liveries, looking at the style). PS: thinking further, since he wasn't born until 1909, he can't appear on The Other Layout, except, perhaps, as a twinkle in his parents' eyes. As a teenager I recall browsing through a book on "Naive Painters" in the library. When I came across one of Hamilton Ellis's paintings in its pages I felt utterly affronted on the artist's behalf at his being classified as such. Nowadays I'm apt to see the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 As a teenager I recall browsing through a book on "Naive Painters" in the library. When I came across one of Hamilton Ellis's paintings in its pages I felt utterly affronted on the artist's behalf at his being classified as such. Nowadays I'm apt to see the point. That's 'cos it can't be "art" if it's clear enough to spot the rivets! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Does the smoking chimney belong to the glueworks in the background? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted January 31, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2018 I’m a big fan of Hamilton Ellis. He and his wife lived at Ouzelwood, Ewell, Surrey, and he was editor of “Modern Transport” 1930-50ish. Because of this connection he designed the shipping pavilion at the 1951 Festival of Britain. He added the “Hamilton” to his name to acknowledge a Scottish family relation who was his benefactor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted January 31, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2018 How about this one then? P.s. is it always p*ss*ng down in Norfolk? 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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