Castle Aching

[sem34090]

The spur at the top is for the Castle exchange sidings, where the NER connects to the waggonway.

 

[Caley Jim]

Is the spur at the top for the Necropolitan Branch?  

Or a private platform for the ghost of St Aiden?  

 

Jim

[Hroth]

The spur at the top is for the Castle exchange sidings, where the NER connects to the waggonway.

A little railbus service would be a boon for modern tourists.  Its a longish walk there and back to the castle!

 

Visited when staying at a cottage in Detchant a few years ago, with a wonderful view of the coast*, esp Lindisfarne and the ECML. 

 

* When not foggy.....

[sem34090]

When referring to the Necropolitan Railway, I think that you did in fact mean to refer to the Highgate, Brookwood & Derweze Railway, primarily for removing the remains of undesirable citizens from the Kingdom to the place where it was seen that they belonged. Shrouded in great secrecy for many years, knowledge of this underground railway's existence and its own ironic demise surfaced only recently:

 

Very few details about this railway have come to light, but it is known that the railway purchased the former Metropolitan Railway 2-4-0 'Fowler's Ghost' from Boulton following its unrecorded conversion to burn biomass instead of firebricks. The other known detail is that the station master of the Eastern Terminus (Derweze) is known to have been a Mr S. Atan.

Edited March 27, 2018 by sem34090

[Marly51]

Would this fit the bill for Tabitha, it does fill some of her wish list requirements?

 

What about the garden? Gertrude Jekyll also lowered a young boy in a basket, suspended from the castle walls, to plant the crevices of the castle hill!

[runs as required]

We used to get our first year students to design violin factories within the aerial view post #8767

Very popular project it was, requiring an overnight 24 hrs lockin stay on the island to undertake a site survey.

 

I understand Lutyens's Liindisfarne castle has just undergone a very costly and fundamental restoration.

Polanski's film Cul de Sac was shot there in the 1960s

 

dh

 

Ed

Gertrude J's little walled garden ought to be really wonderful, but has just been full of nettles for several decades past

...maybe the restoration has touched it

Edited March 27, 2018 by runs as required

[Nearholmer]

Luminal spaces, I think is the the fancy term for places at the indefinite boundary between things, and these sky/ water/land places are definitely magical, whether it be the Wolferigham Branch, Holy Island, Rye Harbour, Mont St Michel, St Michaels amount, Clonmacnoise ...... I could go on.

[Northroader]

When referring to the Necropolitan Railway, I think that you did in fact mean to refer to the Highgate, Brookwood & Derweze Railway, primarily for removing the remains of undesirable citizens from the Kingdom to the place where it was seen that they belonged. Shrouded in great secrecy for many years, knowledge of this underground railway's existence and its own ironic demise surfaced only recently:

H,B&DR.png

 

Very few details about this railway have come to light, but it is known that the railway purchased the former Metropolitan Railway 2-4-0 'Fowler's Ghost' from Boulton following its unrecorded conversion to burn biomass instead of firebricks. The other known detail is that the station master of the Eastern Terminus (Derweze) is known to have been a Mr S. Atan.

[sem34090]

 

So, it's frozen, is it?

 

May I introduce to you all the Arundel & Southern Islands Joint Railway!

 

In the popular juvenile entertainment programme shewing the story of a pair of young princesses, the city that is today known as Arundel was referred to as Arendelle. If one observes the graphics with care it can be seen that the graphics loosely resemble the Sussex seat of the Duke of Norfolk. Some time after the events of the film, owing to the possibility of the seas once again being frozen as they were in 1839 and 1840 due to peculiar fits of rage from the reigning monarch of Sussex and Norfolk, the Arundel & Southern Islands Joint Railway Company (A&SIJR) was formed to construct a railway connecting Arundel to the Southern Islands (Known in the present as the Isle of Wight, Hayling Island, The Channel Islands and the Scilly Isles) referred to in the form.

 

The railway commenced its journey down the valley of the river Arun in the direction of Littlehampton, along a section that would eventually become part of the London, Brighton & South Coast Railway, before swinging to the West and continuing along the coast, sharing lines with the Brighton & Chichester (Later also subsumed into the LBSCR) up to that city. From there, construction was shared with the LBSCR as far as Portsmouth. The A&SIJR diverged from the LBSCR just to the East of Portsmouth Harbour and entered a 5.7 mile long tunnel (The longest in the South at the time, possibly even in the country) to join the IOWR's branch at Bembridge. From here track was shared with the IOW as far as Ventnor, from whence the joint line continued Westwards to Niton. It was here that, later, a junction would be formed. 

 

The line terminated at Niton for ten years whilst a most impossible feat of engineering was undertaken: a seventy-mile tunnel was to be constructed to take the line from Niton Undercliff as far as Alderney, where the railway would connect to the Admiralty's Alderney Railway. Crossing Alderney to Rose Farm, the line was again extended via yet another tunnel - this time of 20 miles in length - was constructed to take the railway to Gurnsey. Crossing this island, then through a 3 mile tunnel from St Peter Port to Herm, another 3 mile tunnel to Sark and through a final tunnel of 12 miles, the line reached Jersey, arriving in St Helier on April 1st, 1902.

 

Once the Channel Islands extension had been completed, the company turned its attention to the Scilly Isles. Heading Northwest across the Isle of Wight from Niton, the line crossed the FYN just East of Freshwater, before crossing to Milford-on-Sea. Continuing North, the A&SIJR joined the LSWR just outside New Milton, sharing this company's line as far as Bournemouth. From here it crossed to Brownsea Island, then on to the Isle of Purbeck, rejoining on the LSWR's Swanage Branch at Norden. The railway continued to share LSWR lines from here until Dorchester. From Dorchester to Exmouth, the A&SIJR connected virtually all of the branch lines of the GWR and LSWR that reached the Dorset and South Devon Coast, including Abbotsbury, Bridport, Lyme Regis, Seaton, Sidmouth and Budleigh Salterton. By the time the company reached Exmouth it was 1907.

 

From Exmouth, the railway joined with the GWR properly for the first time after crossing the Exe. It remained with the GWR until Teignmouth, before crossing the Teign and rejoining at Torre, before breaking off just South of Greenway tunnel and crossing the Dart to Dittisham. The railway began wandering around Devon, reaching Kingsbridge by 1910 and meeting the GWR once again in Plymouth by 1911. Remaining with the GWR as far as St Germans, the line headed towards the coast, connecting to the GWR at Looe, then rejoining it at Fowey in 1912. Diverging for the final time, the railway headed South West across Cornwall, intersecting the GWR at Falmouth, Helston and Marazion, joining with the GWR into Penzance, which was reached in 1914. The outbreak of war put paid to further expansion until 1919, when the 'final push' to the Scilly Isles commenced, with St Buryan being reached by the end of that year. The railway left the British Mainland for the final time just to the Southwest of Sennen, before entering a 26.1 mile tunnel to reach St Martin's by 1923. The grouping had a great impact on the railway, and much of its Network was split between the Southern and Great Western, leaving the A&SIJR to rename itself as the 'Southern Islands Railway'. It retained running powers over its former territory, and retained its lines on the Channel Islands and the extension West from Penzance. It also retained the joint section between Dorchester and Exmouth. Services from Arundel ceased in 1925, with the Channel Islands sleeper expresses commencing from Fratton instead of Arundel.

 

The shrinking of its mainland network caused the new SIR to connect its line to the remaining Channel Islands, reaching Tresco in 1927, Bryher in 1928 and St Mary's in 1929. The final section also came in 1929, with the line extending onto St Agnus.

 

Never a particularly profitable company, the SIR was finally liquidated on June 21st, 1934. All of its lines West of Exmouth became subsumed into the GWR, the lines to the East becoming Southern territory. The Channel Islands extension also became subsumed into the SR, but following the German occupation of the Channel Islands in the Second World War, the tunnel was destroyed by the Royal Navy to prevent German invasion. Following the end of the war, much of the former SIR network closed, with the Channel and Scilly Isles being left with virtually no railway presence and the mainland sections were closed under Beeching in the 1960's. The only section of the SIR left is now known as the Alderney railway, this being formed from the original Admiralty-built section of the line.

 

I have way, way too much time on my hands this Afternoon. Unfortunately I should be getting on with Derwent, but yet another delay has prevented this.

[Marly51]

We used to get our first year students to design violin factories within the aerial view post #8767

Very popular project it was, requiring an overnight 24 hrs lockin stay on the island to undertake a site survey.

 

I understand Lutyens's Liindisfarne castle has just undergone a very costly and fundamental restoration.

Polanski's film Cul de Sac was shot there in the 1960s

 

dh

 

Ed

Gertrude J's little walled garden ought to be really wonderful, but has just been full of nettles for several decades past

...maybe the restoration has touched it

i understand

Yes it was a bit sad looking when I was there a few years ago, but I picked up a little booklet which illustrated its better times.

Edited March 27, 2018 by Marly51

[Marly51]

The spur at the top is for the Castle exchange sidings, where the NER connects to the waggonway.

I might be wrong, but think there were old lime kilns at the ‘spur’?

[otherplanet]

will any of these help with the inspiration

http://www.ss42.com/pt-buildings.html

 

there is even hogwarts, sorry, a "wizards castle"

 

 

my apologies if this has already been linked to earlier in your prolific tome. I can never keep up.

[Edwardian]

Stop it, Sem, before we end up planning the Númenor, Atlantis and Lyonesse Railway!

[RedGemAlchemist]

Buckenham Castle

Got it in one! Literally five minutes down the road from me!

 

Venta Icenorum? Though it looks more like an old lime kiln...

I don't know what that means. Sorry mate.

 

But I've not told you about the North Norfolk before, have I? 

No, that's brand new. Tell us more, sir! Tell us more!

 

I told Edwardian I'd be leaving RMweb because I was getting distracted, and (due to a few issues) I appear to have drifted back here!

Please don't. You're one of the few people that takes me seriously

[Compound2632]

This is all getting a little silly. Could we go back to a sensible and relevant topic? The role of cabbages in the agricultural economy of west Norfolk? The colours of the WNR's Edmondson tickets? Signalling contractors used by the WNR?

[Adams442T]

Scrolled down the 'castles' link, and what did l find......

 

'Roving Band of Misfits', and 'Teetering by the Well'

 

Hmmm... Come to think of it they could be used for a pub name, and 'Teetering by the Well' as a station..................

[sem34090]

To answer 'Marly, yes there are lime kilns at the end of the spur, hence why the (real life) waggonway made it there. On my map, the lines shown in red are all waggonways that existed in reality.

 

To answer dear old James, our glorious host:

No, I won't be doing that!

[sem34090]

I am sure the Parish Alchemist, who specialises in the use of Red Gems, will not be disappointed to learn that I did not, by any means, intend to quit RMweb forever! It's just I need to be cracking on with Derwent, but currently seem to be either damned or plagued at ever turn or attempt to get the work done. This thread was distracting me somewhat, but unfortunately my current inability to work on the CAD has left me slumped in the gutter sat outside The Dodo looking rather sorry for myself.

[Hroth]

ner.jpg

 

I really am getting rather too distracted by this idea...

I was just pondering what the station would be called.

 

Asking for a return to "Holy Isle" might sound a bit presumptious, and "Lindisfarne" a bit too obvious, while  "Priory" sounds a bit like a London Tube station.

 

Given that the approach must be from the "town" side, perhaps "Fenkle Street" or "St Cuthberts Square" might be useful.

 

 

Another thought was of what a truely unique product of the island might be.  The best I could think of was that a small monastery of Anglican Monks was established on the island in the late 19th Century and their speciality was the brewing of "St Cuthberts Mead", with the slogan "Each Sip a Blessing".

[runs as required]

I was just pondering what the station would be called....Another thought was of what a truly unique product of the island might be.  The best I could think of was ... the brewing of "St Cuthberts Mead", with the slogan "Each Sip a Blessing".

With 70 odd First year architecture students each contributing a violin factory - you would require some rather specialised blue velvet lined violin carrying wagons in addition to those Mead tank wagons (I find it disgusting stuff  -  tastes like the contents of a wasp trap).

 

My dad used to work in Bow before WW II where he claimed the British Winery on the canal opposite his corrugated green tin Shell-BP depot used to load barges with boxes stamped "Made & Botlled by the Monks of Buckfastleigh Abbey, Devon"

 

dh

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[Regularity]

You're one of the few people that takes me seriously

Based on your signature, the "few people" doesn't include you...

[sem34090]

I feel honoured, but must dispute the case that I am in fact one of those 'few' people who takes you seriously. I do, indeed, take you seriously, but if your threads are anything to go by a good number of other people do too.

[Donw]

Progress on her bedroom layout can be made once CA is in a reasonable state, but for now I have to prioritise the school project.

 

Among the specifics mentioned by Tabitha for her end-to-end 'L' bedroom shelf layout are:

 

(a) a station at each end.  I'd love to use the opportunity to base these models on North Eastern practice, as I might not get another chance any time soon. I think Tabitha would accede to this, because she likes the idea of a real world Victorian railway, the North East makes it 'local' for her, and it would be a reasonable fit for the sort of equipment we are contemplating for the school project layout. 

 

(b) a mine and, perhaps, a colliery line.  This allows a bit of Co Durham industrial architecture, chaldrons and various locos from Derwent to small industrials. 

 

©  in the middle, occupying the corner of the 'L' shaped layout, a fairy tale castle.  Tabitha seems to think of this as a fantastical crystal castle.  I am thinking of something more real-world and Germanic with a mix of the middle ages and baroque. Alternatively, could I 'invent' a moorland fastness for the Prince Bishops that would be part fortress, part palace?

 

And then we have the anomalous stock!

 

Apart from anything we get going for the school project, we have my childhood stuff.

 

This is a healthy collection of 1930-40s era 1980s vintage GW equipment. We have today unearthed 2 castles, a saint, 2800, 2 panniers, 2 prairies, Collett and Dean Goods and a trio of 14XXs, plus my little Blue 'Nellie'. There are plenty of Hornby Colletts, Airfix Centenaries and Siphons G and H, and some kit-built Colletts.  Plenty of wagons, too.

 

Is this fairy tale enough? If this can be close to Cardiff I don't see why you cannot envisage one in the North East.

 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=castell+coch&rlz=1C1CAFA_enGB693GB693&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=NwUcH5tJG9-qjM%253A%252CjbpuSB-r8nEPKM%252C_&usg=__DVc6wcHnSkTtuU63Q15lk_LTWJw%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjM5sP2mo3aAhVLI8AKHTiJBfoQ9QEIYjAG#imgrc=NwUcH5tJG9-qjM:

 

 

Don

 

edit having been busy I am about three pages too late.

Edited March 27, 2018 by Donw

[Donw]

Progress on her bedroom layout can be made once CA is in a reasonable state, but for now I have to prioritise the school project.

 

Among the specifics mentioned by Tabitha for her end-to-end 'L' bedroom shelf layout are:

 

(a) a station at each end.  I'd love to use the opportunity to base these models on North Eastern practice, as I might not get another chance any time soon. I think Tabitha would accede to this, because she likes the idea of a real world Victorian railway, the North East makes it 'local' for her, and it would be a reasonable fit for the sort of equipment we are contemplating for the school project layout. 

 

(b) a mine and, perhaps, a colliery line.  This allows a bit of Co Durham industrial architecture, chaldrons and various locos from Derwent to small industrials. 

 

©  in the middle, occupying the corner of the 'L' shaped layout, a fairy tale castle.  Tabitha seems to think of this as a fantastical crystal castle.  I am thinking of something more real-world and Germanic with a mix of the middle ages and baroque. Alternatively, could I 'invent' a moorland fastness for the Prince Bishops that would be part fortress, part palace?

 

And then we have the anomalous stock!

 

Apart from anything we get going for the school project, we have my childhood stuff.

 

This is a healthy collection of 1930-40s era 1980s vintage GW equipment. We have today unearthed 2 castles, a saint, 2800, 2 panniers, 2 prairies, Collett and Dean Goods and a trio of 14XXs, plus my little Blue 'Nellie'. There are plenty of Hornby Colletts, Airfix Centenaries and Siphons G and H, and some kit-built Colletts.  Plenty of wagons, too.

 

you could make a nice layout with that lot 

 

Don

[RedGemAlchemist]

Based on your signature, the "few people" doesn't include you...

Thanks. I try not to. Taking yourself too seriously only leads to bad things.

 

I feel honoured, but must dispute the case that I am in fact one of those 'few' people who takes you seriously. I do, indeed, take you seriously, but if your threads are anything to go by a good number of other people do too.

D'aww. Thank you!