RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted February 15 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15 Paint arrived this afternoon, so this evening I’ve sprayed the body of the bulldog green. Looking at prototype photos it’s debatable if it’s green or wartime black. I also need to change the tender to a Dean 3000gl at some point (which is starting to feel like a need to add another printed bulldog…..) 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted February 16 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16 a coat of Phoenix GWR green, followed by a mix of weathered black for the frame/smokebox and it’s almost there. Just need some new drill bits to get the holes opened out for the handrails and I can finish it off. For now loco and tender are not connected as I will want them separate while doing handrails really impressed with how this has turned out 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted February 18 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18 Thanks for all the info on these prints. Your build looks very good. Can I ask what wheels you used for the bogie, or are they the Bachmann ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted February 18 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18 21 minutes ago, Mikkel said: Thanks for all the info on these prints. Your build looks very good. Can I ask what wheels you used for the bogie, or are they the Bachmann ones? I just reused the Bachmann wheels. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted February 19 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19 Thanks. If that printed chassis for the Aberdare works out the possibilities seem endless. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post The Fatadder Posted February 22 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted February 22 an update on the Bulldog, the cab handrails have all been painted, buffers / smokebox details all fitted (all scavenged from the Dukedog body). I’m lacking handrail knobs so I can’t add the boiler handrails until I get some (which won’t be until Ally Pally). 19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted March 17 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 17 Pent yesterday demonstrating D&E modelling at Ally Pally with DEMU, i didn’t really get a chance to see much of the show, but did at least manage a little bit of shopping. I picked up the remaining point rodding (4roller) parts from ModelU so there is nothing stopping me from completing the rodding on Brent. I also had a couple of good rummages through the £1 and the skits box on Elis Clark’s stand. A couple of springside bufferstops (one of which will be used on the Kingsbridge scenic fiddleyard along with a Dart castings loading gauge. A set of blacksmith door window grills, smiths wagon sheets, GWR 6 wheel bogies and a set of Comet coach ends (none of which I have plans for, though I think I have a set of Sunshine Stock sides for a composite kicking around somewhere. A couple of sheets of Modelmasters PO wagon transfers (to relivery a Bachmann collectors club wagon and Cambrian kit). and finally 3 kits (Coopercraft mink and AEC monarch) along with a couple of Slaters Gloucester 6 plank PO wagons (one of which was preprinted in Parkend livery.) this morning I’ve put together the Parkend wagon which is now awaiting the remaining bits painting black. The second wagon will follow shortly but I need to find some transfers for it (along with the previously built Cambrian 5 plank wagon with curved ends). Planning to get the previously built Cambrian wagon painted later so I can add the Empire transfers 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold checkrail Posted March 17 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 17 A good haul there Rich. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted March 17 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 17 1 hour ago, checkrail said: A good haul there Rich. I was pretty pleased, I think I went back 3 times over the day and each time added to the pile! The Parkend wagon is now fully painted, ready for weathering. The remaining un painted areas were painted with a weathered black mix. The interior was then given a dusting of coal dust while the paint was still wet. This was followed by some work on the Cambrian 7 plank, which I am finishing with the Empire transfers from Model Masters. Not overly impressed with the quality of these, the thick carrier film doesn’t help with getting the transfer to sit over the wagons detail. The film also overlaps the top edge of the wagon by over a mm. ive never had much luck with Modelmasters transfer film removal but this one is desperate for it (else I will cut away the excess around the letters by hand.) Will have a look at the POW sides list for the Cambrian round top 5 plan 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted March 17 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 17 10 hours ago, The Fatadder said: Pent yesterday demonstrating D&E modelling at Ally Pally with DEMU, i didn’t really get a chance to see much of the show, but did at least manage a little bit of shopping. I picked up the remaining point rodding (4roller) parts from ModelU so there is nothing stopping me from completing the rodding on Brent. I also had a couple of good rummages through the £1 and the skits box on Elis Clark’s stand. A couple of springside bufferstops (one of which will be used on the Kingsbridge scenic fiddleyard along with a Dart castings loading gauge. A set of blacksmith door window grills, smiths wagon sheets, GWR 6 wheel bogies and a set of Comet coach ends (none of which I have plans for, though I think I have a set of Sunshine Stock sides for a composite kicking around somewhere. A couple of sheets of Modelmasters PO wagon transfers (to relivery a Bachmann collectors club wagon and Cambrian kit). and finally 3 kits (Coopercraft mink and AEC monarch) along with a couple of Slaters Gloucester 6 plank PO wagons (one of which was preprinted in Parkend livery.) this morning I’ve put together the Parkend wagon which is now awaiting the remaining bits painting black. The second wagon will follow shortly but I need to find some transfers for it (along with the previously built Cambrian 5 plank wagon with curved ends). Planning to get the previously built Cambrian wagon painted later so I can add the Empire transfers That lot looks remarkably similar to the contents of my odds-and-sods box. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted March 17 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 17 5 hours ago, The Fatadder said: ive never had much luck with Modelmasters transfer film removal I've never had much luck with Modelmaster transfers, full stop... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium M.I.B Posted March 18 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18 Just had a catch up read rich - all excellent work. Must get on with my 013 kit - but only when the current NPCCS projects are done. Incredibly envious of the 70' Parcels van - will keep my eye open for one of those. If I remember correctly, one was used for the "round robin" stores drops which went from station to station delivering whatever the Station master had pre-ordered the week before. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted March 18 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18 (edited) Having now done the second side of the PO wagon, I can completely recall why I never use Modelmasters transfers for anything else! Fortunately in 1947 PO wagons looked a mess so I have set to work distressing the transfer. After a failed attempt to peel off the carrier film (something I dont think ive ever succeeded at) I carefully cut around the letters and removed the excess film that way. This was followed by distressing the logos with wet & dry to replicate the bits where the paint has completely worn out. A couple of areas the transfer lifted completely, so this was replicated along the whole plank (which will get repainted as a replacement in the next step.) Finally black paint was over painted both to tone down the bright white, and add more distressed areas. With that done to a satisfactory standard, I tried fitting the transfers to the other side (this time applying onto microsol rather than applying microsol on top. Transfer went on as badly as before, they are just too thick with so much excess carrier film. Tomorrow once dry I will replicate the distressing. For the smaller transfers for weights / numbers etc I cut around the transfer to remove the excess film. I think next time I will take this a step further and cut around each letter before applying. Of course this would have been a lot easier on the Empire wagon (as the next one has about 4 times as a many letters!) I am debating whether I use the other sheet with the lettering cut up to make a couple of fictional colliery owners in a heavily distressed state to finish off the other two kit builds (rather than the Bachmann wagon I had originally intended). While I am a little disappointed with the transfers not doing quite what I had hoped, I am happy with the end result. For a pound you cant really complain too much. Edited March 18 by The Fatadder 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted March 19 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19 More PO wagon modelling last night, first up sorting the distressing of the other side of the Empire wagon. Which is now ready for the replacement planks etc next up another slaters build for a Gloucester 7 plank (a bargain for a whole £1 price at Ally Pally). the Cambrian round top was painted (EWS red!) at the same time, while the Slaters kit was painted light grey. then before work this morning the Cambrian wagon gained some lettering for a made up colliery. The plan had been to do the grey wagon in Chatterley Whitfield based on a photo on google, however the lettering is too wide to fit without going onto the black end plates. So I’m probably going to look at what I can make up with the remaining letters. finally the Parkend wagon has gained a number, but will now need a level of distressing to 1940s condition 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted March 19 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19 (edited) A few extra details added, The Thewy wagon has now been fitted with its weight, and a location (both from the HMRS GWR wagons sheet. I need to sort out a set of axle boxes / springs to finish it off. The Gloucester 7 plank has gained a livery of a Cardiff based coal merchant L B Riley. The larger side is less pleasing with the simplified lettering. My hope is once it’s distressed, has replacement planks etc it will look better, though I’m tempted to paint on the remains of some shading after distressing the letters. I’m unsure if I will keep the Cardiff lettering, I think it’s a bit too small. So I may just add replacement planks where the lettering would be… of course both wagons are a work of fiction, using a cut up sheet intended for a Chatterley Whitfield wagon that was too big to use on the 7 plank. edit, need to fix the missing brake lever and fit spokes wheels as well! Edited March 19 by The Fatadder 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted March 20 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 20 (edited) Over my lunch brake today I have finished off the paint work on the 4 PO wagons. Once again I started attempting to peel off the carrier film with varying degrees of success. Where it pulled off part of the transfer it was either reapplied, or touched in with white paint. Next was more distressing with wet and dry, followed by a further level of distress with body coloured paint.) The Vallejo paint was drying incredibly quickly, allowing rapid progress. Next up the replacement planks were added (using a random mix of brown, grey and black), before picking out a few extra details for the white end door / floor hatch markings. The final step to blend it all together was a wash of black/brown (using the good old paint on / wipe off technique). There are still a couple of remaining jobs (the Empire wagon needs a false floor adding and a full load, Thewy needs a brake leaver on one side and springs/axle boxes adding. All 4 still need to be fitted with couplings. Edited March 20 by The Fatadder 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted March 21 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 21 11 hours ago, The Fatadder said: Over my lunch brake today I have finished off the paint work on the 4 PO wagons. Once again I started attempting to peel off the carrier film with varying degrees of success. Where it pulled off part of the transfer it was either reapplied, or touched in with white paint. Next was more distressing with wet and dry, followed by a further level of distress with body coloured paint.) The Vallejo paint was drying incredibly quickly, allowing rapid progress. Next up the replacement planks were added (using a random mix of brown, grey and black), before picking out a few extra details for the white end door / floor hatch markings. The final step to blend it all together was a wash of black/brown (using the good old paint on / wipe off technique). There are still a couple of remaining jobs (the Empire wagon needs a false floor adding and a full load, Thewy needs a brake leaver on one side and springs/axle boxes adding. All 4 still need to be fitted with couplings. Are you hiding them behind the hedge because they haven't got any wheels????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted March 21 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21 6 hours ago, St Enodoc said: Are you hiding them behind the hedge because they haven't got any wheels????? Maybe because they are on temporary 3 hole disk wheels because I don’t have any spoked ones to fit…. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted March 22 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22 (edited) Thanks to @Neal Ball for sharing that The Great Western Society have uploaded a digital copy of the Great Western's in house magazine (https://didcotrailwaycentre.cook.websds.net/authenticated/Browse.aspx?BrowseID=87&tableName=ta_journals) I find the Locomotive Changes page particularly interesting, for example in the December 47 issue it confirms the final 8fs to be returned to the LMS were 8467 and 8477 (which may come in handy in the future). I am assuming that this data is a month in arrears (although I thought 6971 entered traffic in Oct 47 and its listed in this issue, so maybe its two months in arrears). Also of interest in this issue is a letter from Commander W B Pirie RN D.S.O. D.L. formerly of Kingsbridge who writes to the company to pass on his satisfaction as to how well the GWR handled the movement of his farm from Kingsbridge to Alton. Moving 57 head of cattle departing at 17:30 and arriving in Alton by 10:30 the following morning. There are photos of a similar farm movement train shown in the Wild Swan book on the Calne branch that I had already been debating modelling, now I think it has to be done! The September 47 issue has a good photo of the end of a Hawksworth coach 822 next to a very interesting looking Dean van with interesting grills on the side. The March 47 issue includes a full listing of all loco allocations, which along with the monthly changes in theory allows for a fairly precise month by month allocation over the year. Photos naturally are not the highest quality, but there are some interesting shots mixed in. Ove the next few evenings I plan on going back through the 1940s to see what else of interest is contained within edit: Another interesting spot which I think will make it onto my to do list if I can find a bit more information. Quote On October 28 to 30 of last year the Traffic Department had the honour of arranging, in collaboration with its sister departments, what proved to be the last Royal Special on the Great Western Railway (as such). Their Majesties The King and Queen went from Paddington to St. Austell, Plymouth, Kingswear and back to London, using the train as their travelling “ home ” Another note of interest, I always thought the 'new' fish vans were a BR introduction, but once again that appears to have been an urban myth. I recall an etched kit being released fairly recently which I didnt buy thinking it was a BR wagon, now I am thinking I need to add one to the build list. Quote The 128 new passenger train vehicles added during 1947 comprised forty corridor thirds (including ten built by contractors), twenty-two corridor brake-thirds, three corridor compos, thirty-one non-corridor thirds (for suburban and branch services), one post office van, twenty- six rail milk tank trucks and five fish vans. Edited March 22 by The Fatadder 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted March 22 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22 9 minutes ago, The Fatadder said: Thanks to @Neal Ball for sharing that The Great Western Society have uploaded a digital copy of the Great Western's in house magazine (https://didcotrailwaycentre.cook.websds.net/authenticated/Browse.aspx?BrowseID=87&tableName=ta_journals) I find the Locomotive Changes page particularly interesting, for example in the December 47 issue it confirms the final 8fs to be returned to the LMS were 8467 and 8477 (which may come in handy in the future). I am assuming that this data is a month in arrears (although I thought 6971 entered traffic in Oct 47 and its listed in this issue, so maybe its two months in arrears). Also of interest in this issue is a letter from Commander W B Pirie RN D.S.O. D.L. formerly of Kingsbridge who writes to the company to pass on his satisfaction as to how well the GWR handled the movement of his farm from Kingsbridge to Alton. Moving 57 head of cattle departing at 17:30 and arriving in Alton by 10:30 the following morning. There are photos of a similar farm movement train shown in the Wild Swan book on the Calne branch that I had already been debating modelling, now I think it has to be done! The September 47 issue has a good photo of the end of a Hawksworth coach 822 next to a very interesting looking Dean van with interesting grills on the side. The March 47 issue includes a full listing of all loco allocations, which along with the monthly changes in theory allows for a fairly precise month by month allocation over the year. Photos naturally are not the highest quality, but there are some interesting shots mixed in. Ove the next few evenings I plan on going back through the 1940s to see what else of interest is contained within I find the old GWR magazines fascinating to read through. I have about 6 next to the model railway. Now that they are on-line, I can see many a happy hour flicking through the pages. Have fun reading and I look forward to seeing the 57 cattle being transported. Presumably there was machinery as well? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted March 22 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22 It doesnt specify, but I am assuming there would be equipment being transported, and for the sake of interest I will add in Beetle for the bull as well. From the Calne photo there were also vans containing dry stores and a horsebox, so it should make for quite an interesting set. With 6 cows per van I think I am going to need to build 2 more kits to get the full set. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted March 22 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22 5 minutes ago, The Fatadder said: It doesnt specify, but I am assuming there would be equipment being transported, and for the sake of interest I will add in Beetle for the bull as well. From the Calne photo there were also vans containing dry stores and a horsebox, so it should make for quite an interesting set. With 6 cows per van I think I am going to need to build 2 more kits to get the full set. Plus of course a carriage for "the farm labourers". The Commander would have travelled 1st class from Plymouth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted March 22 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22 Just now, Neal Ball said: Plus of course a carriage for "the farm labourers". The Commander would have travelled 1st class from Plymouth. I was trying to work that out, as to whether the labourers would have moved with the farm, or stayed in South Devon and moved to the new owners. it does say "the passengers who accompanied the train were all impressed with the smooth way in which the train was driven", whether that is people travelling in the grooms compartment on a beetle / horsebox or a dedicated coach is a good question 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted March 22 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22 33 minutes ago, The Fatadder said: I was trying to work that out, as to whether the labourers would have moved with the farm, or stayed in South Devon and moved to the new owners. it does say "the passengers who accompanied the train were all impressed with the smooth way in which the train was driven", whether that is people travelling in the grooms compartment on a beetle / horsebox or a dedicated coach is a good question I seem to remember in the BTF films from a few years ago, there was a video about a farm moving. I nearly wrote “ staff”, maybe that’s the distinction - the labourers would stay behind, but the staff would travel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted March 22 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Neal Ball said: I seem to remember in the BTF films from a few years ago, there was a video about a farm moving. This one? Farmer Moving South 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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