Grizz Posted July 2, 2017 Author Share Posted July 2, 2017 The individual wagons are starting to take shape and 'personality'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Grizz Posted July 2, 2017 Author Share Posted July 2, 2017 Inside a couple of the wagons. There are eight in total so far. The bodies are fairly easy, straight forward styrene boxes with the correct section ribs made up in two parts. Doors are then made up separately, four doubles for each wagon. Then the fiddly detail, handles, steps, tie down cleets etc. this last part is what takes the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcoblanco Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Great work Grizz.. I bet you are proud of them! Whats the chosen loco to drag these little babies? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 I'd like to get one of these 'Wide Mouth Frogs' to haul them but for now it might have to be a EuroShed. My son took the photo at Osnabrück last August, it was pretty good as the single loco was hauling a long rake of EANOS wagons of scrap metal through the low level platforms. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 Jumping in at the deep end with the painting of these wagons. I have only ever had a go at airbrushing a couple of times before on weathering diesel locos, so it is a bit nerve racking doing this. The EANOS wagons are so varied but this makes it easy in a way as you can't really go wrong I suppose. It's going to be the transfers that will be the problem as the real wagon details are also very varied, so much so that no two wagons appear to be the same, although they are along similar lines. Luckily I filmed the 'Wide Mouth Frog' at the same time as my son so I can slow down the film and take photos of each of the wagons separately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcoblanco Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Yes some interesting challenge on the markings... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz Posted July 8, 2017 Author Share Posted July 8, 2017 Marco how's the IOAs coming on? Have you got round to painting them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz Posted July 9, 2017 Author Share Posted July 9, 2017 Haha meant IIA wagon. How many did you build in the end? Are these the EWS Construction type? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz Posted July 9, 2017 Author Share Posted July 9, 2017 I have had a go at changing some RTR Lima TEA Tanks. Whilst this isn't in the scratch build category as such I wanted to rebogie these with Bachmann RTR TF25s. Although I also didn't want to alter the wagon body in any way so that I could put the original, hopelessly under scale, Glouster type bogies back if so desired. Turned out to be a doddle as it goes. Only had to shorten the TF25 coupling position by removing 8mm of plastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcoblanco Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Did tea have tf25 at some point..?? Not sure about ioas.. Ive done some MJA x2 and looking for freightliner transfers.. Getting around to paint the yeoman jya sooner or later Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz Posted July 10, 2017 Author Share Posted July 10, 2017 Yes they did have TF25s, or rather probably still do. We don't get them or any tank trains down this part of the world anymore. The first time I saw them was on them would have been around early 2004 around the old Victoria Park Junction, on what was the 'North London Line'. Back then they were just out of refurbishment and possibly on a test or delivery run. I've just tried swapping the bogies over to see what could be done with the old Lima wagon, which was good for its time but is now a bit dated. I might have go at changing the walk ways and end ladders but not for a bit. MJAs, sorry my memory is going.....looking forward to seeing the finished results mate. I haven't even started on any transfers yet. Work again...mutter mutter..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz Posted July 10, 2017 Author Share Posted July 10, 2017 Something like this... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz Posted July 15, 2017 Author Share Posted July 15, 2017 These wagons were built as a batch of 25 but never got finished as I ran out of buffers and couplings. Finally got round to fitting out 5 and selected some general water slide wagon transfers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcoblanco Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Excellent finish! Ever thought of getting your work published in the mainstream magazines..? I think theres an avenue for showcasing us real modellers work.- inspiring for others. The mags just seem to be filled with RTR these days and with prices as they are its a good opportunity for other moddelers to have a go.. Its something thats underserved in recent years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 Thanks Marco. In answer to your question I never thought anyone would be interested. Up until I started this topic on RMWEB I thought that I was fairly alone in enjoying building modern wagons, especially as you rarely if ever see demonstrations of this style of rolling stock being built at model shows. My main interest is European and British style wagons but I also like creating my own based roughly on or around prototypes and styles but with detail and size variations. Another subject that fascinates me is 'what might have beens'. A bit like this tank below. This was started in 2010, (yet another project that never seemed to get finished), to see what could be done with plastic waste pipe.......the big issue was the domed elliptical ends. In the end I opted for Lego which fitted with about 0.01mm to spare all round. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 This was an old Lima bright yellow Shell bogie tank wagon. It looks vaguely European but it need chopping about to make it look less dated. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcoblanco Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Where Did you get the waste pipe.. What diameter is it.. I Couldnt find the right size... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 Where Did you get the waste pipe.. What diameter is it.. I Couldnt find the right size...Marco I had to compromise a bit. I'll check it tonight, but I'm fairly sure it was 36.6mm out side dimension, standard white under the sink type waste pipe. There are some companies that supply materials for modelling and architectural models etc such as plastic pipe and domed end caps, type stuff. These are very good, but may still need a slight compromise on exact size, also they might be fairly pricey when you are building a rake. This is obviously not the only supplier but check out E.M.A Model supplies then see acrylic shapes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 What size pipe are you looking for? I had a similar issue looking for pipe to try building 4mm tanktainers, eventually found some 32mm external diameter pipe listed as electrical conduit listed on eBay, plus some 32mm external diameter domed furniture feet for the ends. Very inspirational this thread, there's a couple of ferry and cargo waggon types I'd like to tackle and you guys make it look easy keep it up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcoblanco Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I was looking at doing a TUA which is a longer type of TTA but couldnt find right pipe..it needs to be 34mm diameter.. Il have another look around. Adding to my rake of stone wagons and started 2 more today... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcoblanco Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) I need a solution with transfers to badge up as JYA but I may have to compromise and call them PHA by utilising fox transfer pack.i want them looking present day without the yeoman branding Edited July 25, 2017 by Marcoblanco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 Did a quick check on the grey tank body diameter, turns out it was 35.6mm. Which when compared with the Hornby TEAs I have which measure up at 35mm, it is a pretty good match. When I comes to scratch building it really does come down to personal choice. If you can't live with compromise then that's up to you. For example If measurements are taken of the prototypes and then scaled down to 4mm then sometimes you end up with something like .071mm, which gets rounded up or down to suit......so for me compromise is the name of the game. The JYAs are looking good Marco. The Transfer issue is the biggest problem I face. As an item in the overall cost of scratch building wagons Transfers are disproportionately high, but they are essential to give the final finishing touches that complete the overall look. I took these photos during a ballast delivery at Bluebell Railway. It shows the level of detail needed, especially the lettering and numbering. A couple from Germany.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Have you tried making your own transfers? I used to do that a lot when I was bulk building iso containers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 Have you tried making your own transfers? I used to do that a lot when I was bulk building iso containers. Satans Goldfish what type of decal paper did you use and what type of printer??? Frustratingly I have had a go at printing a few waterslide transfers using quite a good laser printer but the age old problem of needing white print is a pain, none of them turned out particularly well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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