nigelb Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I am currently building a small rake (3) of 6 Wheel NBR coaches from etches supplied by Jamie92208 of this parish, in O guage, no idea what caused the switch from 2mm FS although grandborough still being worked on slowly. What i WILL need is a layout to run them on . I am after a terminus with minimal size, 1 platform a couple of sidings maybe a runaround loop any ideas I would prefer a real place . but ideas will be gratefully received space wise 15 inches wide and 6 foot long and perhaps an idea as to a nice simple loco. this will be a slow time project nigel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Cocks Junction Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Hello nigelb If you browse the National Library of Scotland map collection at 25" to the mile you may find something. I know of no example myself but this could be your best bet. http://maps.nls.uk/geo/find/#zoom=5&lat=56.0000&lon=-4.0000&layers=7&b=1&point=0,0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 How about Bervie (Inverbervie post 1920s)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOCJACOB Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Certainly try the North British Railway Study Group. As a suggestion MacMerry, Lauder or Gifford instantly come to mind. Alternatively with "modellers licence" Lochty is another possibility as technically it was never graced with a passenger service? All covered in Oakwood publications. Downside is you'll need a D51? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Kirk Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Hi, Unfortunately I think that you might have trouble getting what you want in the space you mention. Six foot radius points (and I doubt if 6 wheel coaches would manage anything tighter) are nearly 18 inches long so a loop long enough to round them is problematical. Small country branch termini in real life were often quite spread out. The late CJ Freezer suggested a city location in his classic "Minories" design. A station in a cutting , approach through a tunnel and operated by tank locos. Even this was IIRC over 6ft long in 00. You can save a bit of "point length" by using a sector plate fiddle yard which makes it look as if the points at one end are in the tunnel/under the overbridge. With this you might just get a long enough run round in 6ft by 15 inches. scenic area. With retaining wall at the back you might get a narrow platform the run round and a siding within the 15in. An imaginary extra station in Leith perhaps? As Doc Jacobs says you will need a period NBR loco the little Drummond 4-4-0T (D51)or its matching small 0-6-0T or a bit earlier Wheatley 0-6-0ST. The NB study group would be the place to get details. Unfortunately I don't think any of these are covered by kits so scratch building the only option. best wishes, Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clachnaharry Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 There is always Eyemouth of course - 3 points and no loop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelb Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 MMMMM I am now thinking a nice plinth to display a train on might be the way forward . at least that will save the cost of a motor, gears, lots of insulating of bits and a load of track. better use of the space to get my finger out and get grandbourgh up and running. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesperus Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Here is a link to Bervie http://maps.nls.uk/view/75632918 I assume there was a crossover somwhere between the turntable and headshunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted May 18, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) A bit more detail in the OS 25in maps: 1903: http://maps.nls.uk/view/84240679 Doesn't seem to change by the time it became LNER: 1924: http://maps.nls.uk/view/84240682 Edited May 18, 2016 by keefer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOCJACOB Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) If I remember correctly (bit North of my real interest) a whole of a NBRSG Journal was dedicated to the line. From further recollection independant, then CR then NBR. Buildings in early times clearly showed the dual ownership Edited May 19, 2016 by DOCJACOB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Why not a simple thru station such as the NB Border Counties (eg Deadwater or Saughtree ?) Could act first as a diorama display, before later evolving into a working layout. dh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted May 19, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19, 2016 If you are considering Bervie - there is an excellent book covering the branch in quite some detail. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Montrose-Bervie-Railway-South-East-Kincardineshire/dp/1899889965/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1463643052&sr=8-1&keywords=montrose+and+bervie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) Hi, Unfortunately I think that you might have trouble getting what you want in the space you mention. Six foot radius points (and I doubt if 6 wheel coaches would manage anything tighter) are nearly 18 inches long so a loop long enough to round them is problematical. Small country branch termini in real life were often quite spread out. The late CJ Freezer suggested a city location in his classic "Minories" design. A station in a cutting , approach through a tunnel and operated by tank locos. Even this was IIRC over 6ft long in 00. You can save a bit of "point length" by using a sector plate fiddle yard which makes it look as if the points at one end are in the tunnel/under the overbridge. With this you might just get a long enough run round in 6ft by 15 inches. scenic area. With retaining wall at the back you might get a narrow platform the run round and a siding within the 15in. An imaginary extra station in Leith perhaps? As Doc Jacobs says you will need a period NBR loco the little Drummond 4-4-0T (D51)or its matching small 0-6-0T or a bit earlier Wheatley 0-6-0ST. The NB study group would be the place to get details. Unfortunately I don't think any of these are covered by kits so scratch building the only option. best wishes, Ian If you set the layout in the later NBR period (1920 ish) you have more options loco wise, including some available from kits. By the end of the period, what becomes the LNER C15 Atlantic tanks (NBR class M?) were in use on some of the smaller branches around Edinburgh, and a kit is available from Jim McGeowan at Connoisseur Models. Even the larger C16s were sometimes seen (62C models), and the J83's and J36's (both Connoisseur) were sometimes used on passenger trains all of which are available in kit form. The six wheel coaches lasted into the LNER period as well, so they are appropriate for the post first world war war period too. Some of the urban and suburban stations around Edinburgh and Glasgow were on very cramped sites. The disused stations website is a good source of inspiration. Mark Edited July 2, 2016 by Shez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 without squashing it down at all i think youd need 25 feet at least for bervie in 7mm bervie 1923 jpg by Sam, on Flickr i like doing MS paint stuff like this so i gave it a go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Just heard from Peter Mullen at 62C models. If you check out his website he is planning to introduce a kit for a Holmes G7 0-4-4 T. This would be perfect motive power for the coaches. They were originally based around Glasgow but had been moved around to other areas by the start of WW1 Like the plan for Bervie Sam, could you do something similar for me on a couple of other possibilities sometime? Like many country branches Bervie took up a surprisingly big site. St Cyrus on the same line has been done by a few people. As I said in the previous post I think the city and suburban branches in the central belt are a better proposition in O gauge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelb Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 After a bit of looking I have decided a compressed version of Lauder is possible if i build it as a modified "L" and build 4 1 meter modules it will fir in my flat stage one is Templot it and from now on its going to be on m blog 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelb Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 1200 laser sleepers just collected from a supplier in W London 91 pounds, not sure if that's expensive but it was convenient for me to pick up. Ordered Tuesday collected this morning, now just need to wait for C&L to deliver the chairs and answer my question about rail. I have a cutting list for the ply I am now trying to decide the design for the legs any suggestions I do want to make it foldupable 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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