RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted June 6, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2016 On another thread (What if the Varsity line had survived), it has been mentioned that the LMS articulated diesel unit went on to become used on the Crewe-Manchester electrification as a wiring train. Does anyone know of any photographs of it at this period? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted June 6, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2016 I've not seen any,but I think it was altered quite a bit. The biggest being made a two car Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted June 6, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 6, 2016 And the roof flattened. I've never seen a picture of it as such, but there must be one out there somewhere.. Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted June 6, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2016 The LMS built another DMU, a 2-car converted from two brake third opens. That would seem a more likely candidate for this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted June 6, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 6, 2016 Is that the one with underfloor paxman engines? If so that was built by BR at derby to test out DEMU's for intercity routes. I'm not aware of any other LMS dmu... Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted June 6, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2016 It was the three car articulated unit that was rebuilt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted June 6, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2016 Is that the one with underfloor paxman engines? If so that was built by BR at derby to test out DEMU's for intercity routes. I'm not aware of any other LMS dmu... Andy G I thought this too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted June 6, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2016 It was the three car articulated unit that was rebuilt Just dug out Jenkinson/Essery and they confirm that. Cab ends also changed apparently and still at Longsight in 1967. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted June 6, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2016 Is that the one with underfloor paxman engines? If so that was built by BR at derby to test out DEMU's for intercity routes. I'm not aware of any other LMS dmu... Andy G Sorry. My confusion due to it being ex-LMS coaches. Quite an interesting modelling project in its own right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted June 6, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2016 I think the LMS unit lasted quite late,not sure how much use it got though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Argos Posted June 6, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2016 There is some pictures of the three car unit in Bill Simpsons Oxford to Cambridge books if you can locate a copy. I think it is volume 1 Oxford to Bletchley. I have a look later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted June 6, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2016 There is some pictures of the three car unit in Bill Simpsons Oxford to Cambridge books if you can locate a copy. I think it is volume 1 Oxford to Bletchley. I have a look later. I had a copy of that book (donated to Yeovil MRG). It's the later period that I am curious about although any model that I made would be as per the original but perhaps in DMU green with speed whiskers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 To answer a point raised above: the LMS did have other diesel railcars, and if you include the types used by LMS-NCC in Ireland it becomes very clear that the LMS had a very active and well thought through diesel railcar development and evaluation programme, just as the same team had a very good diesel loco evaluation programme. The name of the engineer who led the programme has leaked out of my brain, but I do recall that his personal papers are held by the NRM, so it is possible to trace almost every turn of his learning about and thinking on the topic. [edit: even reading the catalogue, without reading the contents, gives a very interesting insight http://www.nrm.org.uk/~/media/files/nrm/pdf/archiveslists/2013/hornbuckle-tommy-archive.pdf ] K PS: Tommy Hornbuckle was the engineer. Here is the best write-up on the articulated unit trials that I've seen http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/c/cambridge/index7.shtml Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LMS_railcars https://www.amazon.co.uk/LMS-Diesel-Locomotives-Railcars/dp/0901115762 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted June 7, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 7, 2016 Damn these diesel threads, that's another book just ordered! ;-) Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted June 7, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 7, 2016 Good to see an early-style H and M Clipper on the left hand side of the cab... http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/c/cambridge/Part%203/P3-32.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Damn these diesel threads, that's another book just ordered! ;-) Andy G Sorry but it is very good indeed. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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