danstercivicman Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Cheers The 8f simply looks (and is) powerful... I'm still scratching my head about what to do with it long term... I think that really I need to use large radius points and I'm thinking about just re-working the board with the points (going to 1.8m) and hitch will give the enlarged station but not much more goods. But then I think-why not just build new boards on adjustable feet using 9mm ply and then transplant the viaduct arches onto those and use large radius code 100 throughout... I reckon 90 percent of the layout can be transplanted, but what to do about goods....maybe a future lower level yard? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I'd say for the time being use the 8f as a stand in on passenger trains (always liked seeing pictures of them on carriages (i'm not clued up on such things but would they have seen use on parcels and milk at all?)), and then in the long run when you do change the layout and add the lower level goods yard it can quite easily move over. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 I'd say for the time being use the 8f as a stand in on passenger trains (always liked seeing pictures of them on carriages (i'm not clued up on such things but would they have seen use on parcels and milk at all?)), and then in the long run when you do change the layout and add the lower level goods yard it can quite easily move over. It does rather look like the 8F was not used on parcels, possibly because it was not built for speed, there are a lot of pictures of 5MT parcel workings. I'm looking at several ideas but there will be a separate goods yard (prob coal or industry and that's where the 8F will come in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 Stanier 5MT 44871 basks in the evening sun. It will soon take the last UP Semi Fast of the day to Marylebone. The scene is tranquil and the evening will be given to DMU's and a parcels service 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Stanier 5MT 44871 basks in the evening sun. It will soon take the last UP Semi Fast of the day to Marylebone. The scene is tranquil and the evening will be given to DMU's and a parcels service If you don't mind me doing so, here's my take at an atmospheric photo, but not half as good as yours. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 That's a real moody shot Dan, love it mate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Dont know about going to Marylebone it could be Marylebone in the last knockings of the GC as many black fives hauled the last trains ,brilliant layout and look forward to more photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 Cheers for the kind words I looked over and thought... I need to capture that, there is a loft light which at night and in the mornings makes things look great 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) After much Anyrail trial and error... mainly error... I have two competing designs: 1) Based on Borchester Market 2) Based on Clive Mortimore's Sheffield exchange with an ex GWR low level route Design 2 feels more inner city.. Thoughts welcome? Both have pros and cons, the Borchester Market Type seems to be larger and more expensive to build but includes goods of all types. The version based on Clive's plan has a mainly passenger feel but with the lower level can accommodate ex gwr workings. Both can be expanded in the future... the GWR lines can be taken under and round. Borchester can be expanded further as per the original plan Edited April 25, 2017 by danstercivicman 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60012 Commonwealth of Australia Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) After much Anyrail trial and error... mainly error... I have two competing designs: 1) Based on Borchester Market 2) Based on Clive Mortimore's Sheffield exchange with an ex GWR low level route Design 2 feels more inner city.. Thoughts welcome? Personally I like the look of the 1st one more, not entirely sure what it is about it that appeals to me though. Could be the potential for a lot of extra interest brought in by the milk/parcels siding, and the loco depot, along with the longer platforms. That being said, the 2nd one has much more of a "Minories" feel to it. Just my personal thoughts though. Peter *Edited as pressed post too soon* Edited April 25, 2017 by 60012 Commonwealth of Australia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 Thanks for the feedback, I'm swaying towards plan one, but I have to hand it to Clive his adaptation off minories is cracking! I'm also dreaming of Castles and Halls racing under the low level section... plan 1 feels more rural and plan 2 more urban but with the colliery branch it could be set north of Nottingham, maybe instead of Cleethorpes? Daily express to London? Semi fast to Nottingham? Coal hauled by WD's and 8f's? Bournemouth to Immingham service? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Thanks for the feedback, I'm swaying towards plan one, but I have to hand it to Clive his adaptation off minories is cracking! I'm also dreaming of Castles and Halls racing under the low level section... plan 1 feels more rural and plan 2 more urban but with the colliery branch it could be set north of Nottingham, maybe instead of Cleethorpes? Daily express to London? Semi fast to Nottingham? Coal hauled by WD's and 8f's? Bournemouth to Immingham service? So the low level is in a completely different location to the high level? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted April 26, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 26, 2017 Hi Dan Top one 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 So the low level is in a completely different location to the high level? Yes, as in Wolverhampton low level station. The railways round here seemed to crus cross each other quite regularly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 Hi Dan Top one Cheers I've started buying the points, I'm having to buy bits in stages! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Bushbury_%26_Wolverhampton_RJD_80.jpg Yes, I see what you mean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Bushbury_%26_Wolverhampton_RJD_80.jpg Yes, I see what you mean. That's the ticket To be fair there is no reason I still can't add the low level... but its a lot of track and the Borchester plan feels more rural... I'm thinking somewhere like Lincolnshire- the GC had Cleethorpes and Immingham so I would imagine that they extended the London Extension up towards Lincoln and then to Immingham? That plan you posted is excellent. It also shows that each Railway had their own goods facility separate to the Passenger Station. This is something I can also address, by removing the Goods Shed and MPD's... but then a lot of the operational interest gets lost. Edited April 26, 2017 by danstercivicman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 How about a Bostin Black Country Layout? Its industrial and has tons of operational interest (future)... What if the GC reached the Black Country? (maybe it should just be a Midland station...ex LNWR?) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) If you do, don't forget polluted canals, rough-looking pubs and grey skies.* *No offence intended, I even live near the Black Country! Edited April 26, 2017 by SVRlad 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 If you do, don't forget polluted canals, rough-looking pubs and grey skies.* *No offence intended, I even live near the Black Country! Deffo, I intend to scratch build some Wolverhampton style industrial derelict factories This is a better version Scan0047.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold fishytrains Posted April 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 26, 2017 I rather like that last version. Has variety in it. Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 I rather like that last version. Has variety in it. Mike Cheers I have received 2 left long radius points and have another box on order with the double slip. That will be it for this month in terms of track. I'm literally going to have to buy bits each month and then later in the year get the baseboards sorted! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Cheers I have received 2 left long radius points and have another box on order with the double slip. That will be it for this month in terms of track. I'm literally going to have to buy bits each month and then later in the year get the baseboards sorted! That's what I intend to do too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 That's what I intend to do too! It's so expensive now this hobby! The only way I can achieve this plan is literally month by month but I am quite happy with it, it blends Borchester with a layout with variety I think it's good to have the MPD separate and the branch to the colliery gives a reason for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Cheers I have received 2 left long radius points and have another box on order with the double slip. That will be it for this month in terms of track. I'm literally going to have to buy bits each month and then later in the year get the baseboards sorted! Given that you come up with a new plan every other day, I suggest saving the cost of a couple of turnouts every month (bank accounts are easy to set up), and then buying them once you have settled on a plan. Compromising your eventual plan because you couldn't wait to buy switches would therefore be avoided. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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