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ECC Wheal Imogen / Rosevean Station: the expansion


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Having decided that the YGH is too much of a pain to not only remove the yellow but also add the missing vacuum bits (including the removal of the etched infill plate) I’ve changed my mind on the prototype and switched to an alternative wagon to model 982518. 
 

this is another electrical fitted Seacow with the grey stripe, so the yellow has been repainted before masking and painting the stripe.  The solebar on this (and the other remaining wagon) were also painted weathered black and it joins the queue for the electrical bits.   This gives a 12 wagon plus shark set of non light fitted wagons and a set of 5 plus shark which will be fitted with the boxes / lights.

 

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again it still needs weathering and new numbers (which I still need to draw).  It was the Intercity logos remaining on the side that drew me to this specific wagon 

 

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A little more Seacow work this evening, with a start adding the electrical bits.  

5 cabinets were glued together from off cuts of plasticard. I think it has come out too big so it will get removed and replaced with a 3d print just as soon as I confirm the actual size!

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For the wires on the end I made up a simple jig with drawing pins to aid forming the bends / alignment of the third wire.    I had planed to do the junction boxes properly, but with the number I need and the number of drills I’d brake doing it I’ve settled for an overlay

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the actual wires up to the lights were bent up following the model as a guide, I’ve done one more than I needed so I have a template for the next wagon.  They were a real pig to glue in place!

 

Graffiti on the wagon is copied from the prototype, as is the enlarged slot on the left hand side.  Once again one of Tim Horn’s photos was used as a guideIMG_0379.jpeg.b2bd7a60b48ebd69216e9ed3f5b79d49.jpeg

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With the test build complete, last night attention moved onto the other 4 wagons in the set following the same process.  I think I am right in saying that a single Stingray could power itself plus 4 Seacow which is a stroke of luck!    There is still a fair bit more work to do until these are fully complete, given 4 of the 5 still need tops panels adding and they all need to be weathered.   But they are getting there...

 

The Stingray still needs to be fitted with a generator behind the protective plate at one end.  this could either be in a cage or fully visible.  I have no photo of that area  on the wagon I am modelling, so I am torn between which will be more difficult.  I will probably have a go at drawing a part to print (though once its in situ on the model you wont get a particularly clear look at it.

 

 

Here is the complete set posed on the layout

 

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I took a delivery last night of the plywood to build the open frame section on the front of the Rosevean baseboard, (along with the backscene which probably wont be fitted until the scenics have progressed further.  Hopefully will get a chance to put it together over the weekend (although the weather looks to be against me.) 

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Last nights work weathering the Bachmann Seacow now that it’s had its paint corrected and the missing details added

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 next up was some work on the limpet rake, converting a Loadhaul and another Yeoman POA into limpets.  Along with reviewing the rest of the rake to ensure I’ve got everything covered.   
 

This afternoon I’ve been working on the Rosevean baseboard. Building a plywood extension to the baseboard which will include the river.   There were a few issues (not least me mixing parts to resulting in the top 5mm too wide).  The timber isn’t great quality, but as this area is not going to have any track it’s not so critical.  Now it’s all assembled it needs a little filler in a couple of places, and will be ready for painting to seal the timber.  Then I need to get both scenic boards set up together so I can sort out the track alignments

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still can’t decide on the large building at the rear, it still feels a little over dominating of the scene.  I wonder if it’s just a case of needing to see it along side the other board to even it out. 
 

the ply sheet in the foreground has been marked out for cutting for the platform top to shape.  
 

The back rear corner is intended to have the bottom of a wooded hill, while the river is marked to ready to start adding the terrain.  
 

At the front right there are two options, the original intention was a house built over part of the track bed for the lifted second track.    The alternative a bridge along the lines of Bugle.  Once the template is glued in place a mockup of the house should help test the sight lines to aid with a decision 

 

the other bit I’m trying to make a decision on is the headshunt. Again there are two choices between a bufferstop next to the 66 or extending off scene.   I’m erring toward the former as it  helps minimise the hole in the backscene and keeps all movement on the scenic section.
 

  Now to take down the Wheal Imogen board so I can get the templates glued in place….

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A little work on some Bachmann PNA in advance of a renumbering exercise.

 

I have a rake of 10 purchased when the model was released, I’ve seen a photo of a half rake on the sea wall at dawlish in my period.

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So far the work has included removing the tops panels in advance of fitting the new numbers.  Along with removing the S Bachmann added to the Railtrack improving your railway branding on the sides.   In both cases they just rubbed off with a cocktail stick.

 

I also finished off a build of the alternative chassis version, using parts from a Cambrian SSA and some 247 developments brake handles.IMG_0406.jpeg.9e428403fc1c32b534f35c550efd8c85.jpeg

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A little work on a project that’s been in progress for many many years, a loadhaul Limpet.

 

Bachmann originally released a Loadhaul POA but not a limpet conversion, so back around the time of its release I bought one and cut the holes in the side, but never finished the work.

 

my chosen prototype was 390268, (I know Bachmann have since done this with their Limpet tooling…)

 

this wagon has the even side rib spacing (like the model) and the multi rib end (not like the model).  So last night the end ribs were partially removed and replaced with Evergreen 60by 40 strip.  The holes left over from the ladder were filled and it’s now ready for some orange paint.  Eventually it will get numbered along with the rest of the rake.

 

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First up will be the Bristol show, I will be on DEMU duties tomorrow / Saturday hopefully working on some Genesis FAAs.   

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A start on another project that is not particularly useful for the layout…

 

Ive always liked the EWS FAA container wagons (and intermodal wagons in general) however modelling Devon and Cornwall there has never been much of an excuse to actually use them.  A couple of years ago I found a photo of a couple of FAA with 40ft refrigerated containers on a working heading towards Exeter from St Blazey, followed by finding a couple more photos heading toward Cornwall, following which I completed the Genesis FAA build that I had started back at the Bristol show in the mid 2000s.     The build was a complete nightmare, bucket loads of flash, misshapen components (and eventually when I was finishing it off no instructions!)

 

Since then I have had an ebay alert setup to notify me of more kits for sale, resulting in the purchase of 3 part built kits last week which were delivered today.

A quick inspection and the parts quality is every bit as bad as I remember.   Alas the original builder doesn’t seem to have straightened out the parts before soldering on the end platforms.  The first was relatively straight and just needed a few tweaks, the second was curved along its length (but otherwise ok), the third was a mess with curves in all 3 axis.   The end platforms are also bent out of shape, so will need checking to ensure that it’s a deformed part and not a case of being soldered in the wrong position.   Normally on a second hand white metal kit I am pleased to see it has been soldered, in this case I think glue would have made my life easierIMG_0428.jpeg.3ea1cf6ad4014332bdbcbbf412924b31.jpegIMG_0427.jpeg.930d3d078389535f21fce062a432201a.jpeg

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the starting position with the main body of the wagon

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The badly misshaped buffer beam moulding 

 

On the whole the bogies don’t look too bad, I have Jon Hall’s bogie inner etches to use rather than the crude  white metal rubbish Genesis included.  The instructions are wrong in that they say to use 12mm wheels (they should be 11mm)

 

 

I have 3 sets of instructions thankfully, so marking out the holes for the end pipework should  be quicker this time.  I wont risk soldering the bufferbeams on (the white metal is so thin), but I am currently debating if I just bin them and replace with brass as per the last build.

 

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how it should end up 

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A little more work this evening, before packing my stock box for the Bristol show tomorrow.    
 

First up all the bufferbeam parts were cleaned up, and flattened ready for fitting tomorrow.

 

while working on this I noticed one end of one wagon had not been soldered on squarely by the original builder.  So this was removed,  cleaned up and soldered in place square to the rest of the model.

 

the final job was some more straightening of the bodies, this time squaring up the sides back to the vertical.

 

it should now be ready to start drilling the holes for the end parts, hopefully someone at the show will be selling nickel

silver wire as I’m going to need a lot of it!

 

Will have a few finished wagons, and a couple of locos 

 

just need to finish work on time that I can make it to the show on time!

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I had a good time at the Bristol show on Demu duties, caught up with a lot of friends as well as people interested in the demonstration.  Have to say that was the best location we’ve ever had at the show right in front of the entrance. 
 

I’ve managed a fair bit of work on the FAA project, all of the drilling is now complete, the bufferbeams and buffers have been fitted to all three wagons and a start has been made fitting the brake details.   Once the girls are asleep hopefully I can get a bit more done this evening. 
 

I’ve stocked up on handrail wire from H&A models along with getting some tie bars to finish off the Rudd (and a pack of metal buffer heads for some Brent wagons). More importantly I also

picked up the Peco bulkhead flex track for Rosevean so I’m even closer to starting construction.   

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A little more on the first of the FAA this evening, with all of the brackets now added.   The plan will be to do the same on the other two wagons before starting work on the worst bit - adding the actual pipes.  
 

looking at the wagons again I am not happy with a couple of details on the sides, the container mounting points and the label clip on the side.  I think I will file these off and replace with a 3d printed part 

 

if anyone has a clear photo of the white data panels on the either side of the central mountain point I’d love to see a copy.  I’ve yet to find something that is square on and close enough to make out all the text

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more progress this evening with all the pipe brackets now in place (including the two I forgot to add to the wagon yesterday).

 

This was followed by adding the final parts to the underside of the wagon.  Next up is the hard bit, adding the actual pipe runs, though I’m half tempted to build the bogies instead…

 

im using Jon Hall’s etches y25 inners rather than the rubbish Genesis moulded  that pretty much requires lining up the two halves by eye!  The original spacers have now been used as ballast weights in some wagons for Brent!

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Not as much progress today as I’d have liked, but the edges or the river bed have been sealed with silicon and the baseboard given a coat of black paint.  The best job will be getting it bolted together and marking up for the track laying.  

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IMG_0497.jpeg.388872db627a6802217c7cdf87f05b8b.jpeg A start on the pipework, most of these short lengths are pretty straight forward, the long one which connects both end platforms is a little more involved.  
looking at the prototype it mounts onto 8 brackets on the under side of the wagon (surprisingly enough Genesis didn’t bother with adding them).   My current thinking is to use these to enable me to split it into two parts joining on one of the brackets.  In theory making the forming of the angles a bit easier. 
 

 

The bogies are also a bit more of a pain than i thought, the bogie on these is about 0.8mm longer in wheel base than the y25 the etch is designed for. The solution on the last build was to oversize the holes in the etch by 0.8mm diameter, drill out the holes in the bogie

sides and use the bearings through the etch into the casting.   The inner flat edges of the etch (and the bottom) both align to the casting making it easy to keep it square.   I haven’t got any wheels yet so things are a little held up, worst case they can be built in p4 and swapped out later

 

as an aside any p4 modellers who have surplus OO 10.5/11mm wheels who would like to swap out for some Keen Maygib replacements in p4 please drop me a pm, I’m in need of at least 20

axles worth, possibly more.

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After fitting the remaining brake pipes, the final step on the first FAA build was to fit the bogies.  First the etched frames were bored out to 3.5mm diameter holes giving space for the wider wheelbase of the side frames.  Before gluing together and test fitting on the model. 
 

the bogie mounts as they come result in the wagon riding far too high so they required removing and modifying per below photo IMG_0500.jpeg.775798caa1dc044f6fb8f29478685c61.jpeg

 

it still needs wheels, but for now it’s ready for painting (unless I decide to remove the twist locks and document cage and replace with prints…)

 

So it’s onto the next one.   With the exception of the long pipe that connects both ends, it wasn’t as bad a job as I was expecting

 

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IMG_0508.jpeg.766c21bf30b8a835a8e53ce057054b82.jpegA bit more work last night and the FAA set is almost over the line.  I have pinched the wheels out of a trio of Bachmann intermodal wagons that I currently have not use for to get these running.   There is still a bit of filler needed in the joints on the deck (I am giving last nights application 24 hours to dry), so hopefully they should be primed soon (and may even get some ews red at the weekend if I manage to get some red oxide primer)

 

This time when I say I will never touch a Genesis kit again I really mean it! 

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Another project that has sat in the stock box for far too long, Railtrack PNAs.

 

putting aside the fact that I have far too much Engineers stock for the Newquay Branch, (at last look I have 10 options now and would only take one or two to a show).   The PNA are something a little different to the EWS or rusty Dutch on the rest

 

I’ve mentioned the work on the bodies previously, so before work this morning attention turned to correcting the chassis springs.   
 

with the Dremel set up with a milling bit, and a length of plasticard glued in place as a back stop.  The wagons were prepared removing the brake leavers, before milling off the Bachmann spring.   A replacement 3d print was then glued in place before replacing the removed parts

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fitted with my 3d printed springs and refitted with the brake levers

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Wire couplings fitted for an inner wagon

 

All in it’s about a 10 min job per wagon (and I have at least 24 more to do, potentially with the chassis for the Bitumen tanks still to follow…)

 

initially I am finishing off a 5 wagon block of PNA and the same of Limpets (working to the max size of the Newquay fiddleyard)

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9 limpets have now joined the PNA awaiting new springs (so I’m about half way through the stock box!)  I have cleaned the printed and set it off printing a set of bunninghaus springs (I think enough for 15 wagons, which allowing for breakages removing from supports should cover this batch).  The rest will get converted another day….

 

 

I have also made another silly purchase…. I have a lot of eBay saved searches for different iterations of the latest Bachmann class 37.  Mostly with the aim of buying up new bodyshells as they become available. (So far having used one grey /0, 2 large logo split box, 2 large logo /4 and an intercity /4).  I had been watching a Kernow large logo /0 with a missing headlight which I expected to go for circa £30 on past form.   The plan was to  fit replacement grills, fill a few details and a window, fit a set of flush front ends and replace 37710.

 

Then I get an alert for a TMC weathered 37 for £130 and I couldn’t resist (admittedly for a moment I confused Deluxe weathering with Deluxe edition and got very excited…) The plan remains the same, all be it now meaning I will sell the old model and replace with the new.  
 

it will take a bit more thought as to how to modify the old noses to fit the new lighting (unless I do a bit of switching around to fit one of my 37/5 bodies back onto the new chassis.   
 

 

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lots of tta family suspension ready for cleaning up once I get home from my eldest’s cricket tournament this morning. Looks like the revised design has come out nicely (sacrificing the holes between the spring by adding a back plate in order to reduce the number of supports). In theory this will reduce the number of failures when removing the supports at a cost of some detail you can’t really see.  Will be good to start getting them fitted to the wagons.

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An afternoon sat in the sun with a tray of  PNA and 3d printed springs and the rake is now complete (along with soldering up a set of Dinghams for it)

There’s not a lot more to do other than a little weathering once the new numbers are on (these were practically brand new after all)

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Next batch of wagons is almost complete, just needing Dinghams adding on the others, and of course the numbers and weathering 

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the Doorand on the end was scratch built years ago while the yeoman branded limpet still needs a bit of paint

 

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More work this evening and the Limpet rake now has couplings on its outer ends (while the Doorand is fitted with couplings on both ends)

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the first wagon here needs the yeoman Y almost completely raises out, while the second the grey is almost all rust (hence not bothering to touch in where I filled the ladder location holes)IMG_0571.jpeg.1644567c5f8fce0a1439d254c79f048a.jpeg

the Doorand still needs custom EW&S lettering

 

I have also found a sheet of Regional Railways logos in my transfer box, so I’ve finished correcting the second 153 for the 150 lash up.   Railtec numbers were cut up to get the unit’s number, Fox Regional Railways logos and Railtec OHLE flashes.  I’ve drilled the holes for the handrails which now need to be fitted.  I have ran out of Par / Newquay transfers so will need to order more next time I buy transfers.IMG_0573.jpeg.2c1268ea84433d664a8ab0df1fc55819.jpeg

 

 

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a quick job finishing off a couple of Parkside Clay and a Rudd, I’m not overly keen on the moulded plastic tiebar you get with kits so always remove and replace with brass.   This is the first time using Cambrian’s etches, which really speed the job up.

 

next up I need to understand the wiring of a Bachmann 150 To suss out adding cdl lights 

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