Vehicle type identification

[Dagworth]

I'm trying to find out what type of vehicle a set of photos was taken inside, all I know is that the photos were apparently taken at King's Cross in 1985. The year is definite, the location may not be accurate...

I'm guessing they are probably Motorail vans, can anyone confirm?

 

This is the best photo for showing what the inside of the vehicle roof looks like 

Kings Cross - Carriage by Mike Peters Organisation, on Flickr

 

And this is why I want to know...

 

Hoping someone can confirm what, where and when

 

Thanks

 

Andi

Edited October 15, 2017 by Dagworth

[keefer]

GUVs with their end doors open? Which would suggest Motorail use, but I'm not sure where there were loaded.

Edited October 16, 2017 by keefer

[Guest]

Agreed, Motorail GUV.

The similarity is striking... planking, roof ribs, lighting etc etc.

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/deepgreen2009/6981672354

[Swindon 123]

GUVs with their end doors open? Which would suggest Motorail use, but I'm not sure where there were loaded.

The Motorail loading dock at Kings Cross was behind the suburban platforms, at what was known as the milk dock. The two lines they were loaded on can be see to the left in this photo under the canopy. One line loaded the car carriers and the other GUV's.

 

31402. [A181C-016] by Paul James, on Flickr

 

 

Paul J.

[Clive Mortimore]

I agree with Paul.

 

Same grotty wall in the background.

[keefer]

i wasn't sure when/if they were loaded at KX, thought it might've been up the road at Caledonian Rd.

 

That last pic of Clive's is interesting - with the check rails  going right up to the point blades

[Clive Mortimore]

Right wall and type of coach but sorry wrong year, I think it was 82.

[Swindon 123]

I agree with Paul.

025.jpg

026.jpg

031.jpg

 

Same grotty wall in the background.

Better photos than mine Clive, showing the two adjoining loading roads. The LH one was for the Car Carriers, note the ramp at the end, and the RH one for loading GUV's. It was very complicated getting all the right vehicles in and loaded, and involved some quite intricate moves that a chess player would be proud of. Another point to watch when shunting here was, because of all the sharp reverse curves, buffer locking was a real possibility and both the TCV car carriers and the GUV's had screw couplings, so easing up onto them to couple up/uncouple was carried out with some delicacy. Oh happy days.

 

Paul J.

[Clive Mortimore]

Under the canopy in Paul's photo.

 

I also have some black and white photos taken either 81 or 82.

Edited October 16, 2017 by Clive Mortimore

[Swindon 123]

Right wall and type of coach but sorry wrong year, I think it was 82.

Later than 82 Clive, as one photo has a Blue/Grey motorail GUV in it. I definitely didn't see one like that before I left KX in 84. Your first and third photos show some old buildings going away from the photographer, to the left of the large gable end wall with the windows in. There were training rooms and other bits and pieces tucked away in there, used by BR. I did my Traction Trainee course in one of the rooms. Lovely dingy old Victorian building in what looked like a colour scheme left over from LNER days. Fascinating place, all now long demolished.

 

Paul J. 

[Clive Mortimore]

Later than 82 Clive, as one photo has a Blue/Grey motorail GUV in it. I definitely didn't see one like that before I left KX in 84. Your first and third photos show some old buildings going away from the photographer, to the left of the large gable end wall with the windows in. There were training rooms and other bits and pieces tucked away in there, used by BR. I did my Traction Trainee course in one of the rooms. Lovely dingy old Victorian building in what looked like a colour scheme left over from LNER days. Fascinating place, all now long demolished.

 

Paul J. 

Hi Paul

 

Could be, I am useless at cataloging my own photos so was trying to work out my life timeline, it was pre 85 when I divorced. It was a Saturday which I didn't get many free after 83 when I started nursing, that's why I went for 82. 

 

The buildings around Milk Yard and the Suburban station were wonderful.

Edited October 16, 2017 by Clive Mortimore

[keefer]

love the repair job in 014.jpg

 

dark building on left, lighter one on the right and a non-matching patch in the middle (and that has a multi-coloured selection of bricks too)

[Clive Mortimore]

love the repair job in 014.jpg

 

dark building on left, lighter one on the right and a non-matching patch in the middle (and that has a multi-coloured selection of bricks too)

Hi Keefer

 

I think that is where the entrance to platforms 14 and 15 use to be.

 

14 and 15 out of use.

Being used to store withdrawn BRUTEs