crazynitwit Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Does anyone have any ideas as of what types of buildings I should put on a cement works. I've already got plans for a warehouse but I'm a bit stuck for any others.( bar the storage tanks) any ideas would be greatly appreciated. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Do you want chalk by rail either internal or mainline then what sort of wagons? Google Barrington Rugby Cement as they had Low height tipplers and associated wagon tippler. Tunnel had some iu wagons very similar to BR sand tipplers. Coal for the kilns either in hoppers or minerals so either another tippler or hopper house. A wagon repair siding and or shed plus somewhere to maintain and fuel the locomotives! Hornby are doing a Barrington Sentinel in the next batch! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamperman36 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Try looking up Dewsbury cemment terminal, still rail connected. Do you just want the cemment plant or you could incude a concrete batching and casting plant with associated aggregate storage and loading/unloading facility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted October 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2017 Do you really want to model a complete cement works? They cover a vast area of ground - this set of photographs will give you some idea: 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazynitwit Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) Try looking up Dewsbury cemment terminal, still rail connected. Do you just want the cemment plant or you could incude a concrete batching and casting plant with associated aggregate storage and loading/unloading facility. I have a train that consists of one pca wagon and one mfa wagon for aggregates. So probably just the pca unloading points and aggregates storage. Edited October 25, 2017 by crazynitwit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazynitwit Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 Do you really want to model a complete cement works? They cover a vast area of ground - this set of photographs will give you some idea: IMG_2898.JPG IMG_2901.JPG IMG_2902.JPG IMG_2903.JPG I was thinking of modelling a small private one that only deals with small trains of cement and aggregates going in with a couple of trains taking bags of powdered concrete out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazynitwit Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 Do you want chalk by rail either internal or mainline then what sort of wagons? Google Barrington Rugby Cement as they had Low height tipplers and associated wagon tippler. Tunnel had some iu wagons very similar to BR sand tipplers. Coal for the kilns either in hoppers or minerals so either another tippler or hopper house. A wagon repair siding and or shed plus somewhere to maintain and fuel the locomotives! Hornby are doing a Barrington Sentinel in the next batch! As I'm modelling a modern image layout would the kilns still be heated with coal or fuel. I already have a sentinel but another one can never hurt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) Halling in Kent might be worth a look - the actual bulk of the works was "off-scene" but there were a cluster of building at the rail terminal - also exported cement in Presflo's / Early powder tanks and bagged cement in the APCM PO vans too. or have a look at Northenden - not a cement works but a nice little cement terminal Edited October 25, 2017 by Southernman46 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 As I'm modelling a modern image layout would the kilns still be heated with coal or fuel. I already have a sentinel but another one can never hurt. What year do you call "Modern" as some people still call 1960 modern? Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazynitwit Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 What year do you call "Modern" as some people still call 1960 modern? Mark Saunders 2013-2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazynitwit Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 Halling in Kent might be worth a look - the actual bulk of the works was "off-scene" but there were a cluster of building at the rail terminal - also exported cement in Presflo's / Early powder tanks and bagged cement in the APCM PO vans too. or have a look at Northenden - not a cement works but a nice little cement terminal From looking at northenden I'm getting the impression that a cement terminal is just a point at which the cement and aggregates are mixed. Tell me if I'm wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 2013-2017 Plenty of scope for wagons in the rtr and buildings available from Walthers! Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazynitwit Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 My layouts only 5'3" l9ng so maximum length of a outbound train (powder concrete bags) is 4 cars (vga) with a loco such as a class 08 and max 2-3 with the likes of a class 66 or 37 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazynitwit Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 Plenty of scope for wagons in the rtr and buildings available from Walthers! Mark Saunders Yes I had a look at a few Walters kits but I'd like to have a go at scratch building. A mix of the two might go quite well together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 My layouts only 5'3" l9ng so maximum length of a outbound train (powder concrete bags) is 4 cars (vga) with a loco such as a class 08 and max 2-3 with the likes of a class 66 or 37 Sounds an interesting layout and look forward to seeing its construction! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazynitwit Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 Sounds an interesting layout and look forward to seeing its construction! yes, ive built the baseboard and glued down the track. so just got to get a move on with the scenery. ive done little bits like getting started with the concrete road surface next to the rails but not much else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 How about a cement works similar to Moorswater, Liskeard, Cornwall? https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.4519655,-4.4882853,167m/data=!3m1!1e3 Gordon A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazynitwit Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 How about a cement works similar to Moorswater, Liskeard, Cornwall? https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.4519655,-4.4882853,167m/data=!3m1!1e3 Gordon A looks pretty good, its given me a few ideas on the types of sheds i could use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazynitwit Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 Do you want chalk by rail either internal or mainline then what sort of wagons? Google Barrington Rugby Cement as they had Low height tipplers and associated wagon tippler. Tunnel had some iu wagons very similar to BR sand tipplers. Coal for the kilns either in hoppers or minerals so either another tippler or hopper house. A wagon repair siding and or shed plus somewhere to maintain and fuel the locomotives! Hornby are doing a Barrington Sentinel in the next batch! i believe they may have already brought it out as im pretty sure i saw one in a local model shop when i was buying a pca wagon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesTor Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Do you really want to model a complete cement works? They cover a vast area of ground... May I ask the location of the cement works photographed? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted October 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2017 How about a cement works similar to Moorswater, Liskeard, Cornwall? https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.4519655,-4.4882853,167m/data=!3m1!1e3 Gordon A Sites like this are distribution depots, not 'works'. Cement is not manufactured here, just stored, processed and distributed. In some cases it is also mixed with aggregates to make concrete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted October 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2017 May I ask the location of the cement works photographed? thanks The photographs were taken at Hope, which was a Lafarge (ex Blue Circle) site at the time of work in progress to increase the rail traffic flow. The site has changed hands many times in its life and is now, I think, owned by the Breedon Cement group. If you enter 'Hope Cement Woks' into your favourite search engine you will be able to sit and read about for hours on end. . . . . . . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazynitwit Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 Sites like this are distribution depots, not 'works'. Cement is not manufactured here, just stored, processed and distributed. In some cases it is also mixed with aggregates to make concrete. In that case my layout could be classified as a distribution centre. Not a works but the buildings are similar anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazynitwit Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 Plenty of scope for wagons in the rtr and buildings available from Walthers! Mark Saunders What sort of Walters kits would you suggest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 What sort of Walters kits would you suggest. A quick look at Walthers website brings these higlights and can be found at several UK stockists, Pooleys Puffers on the Team Valley at Gateshead and White Rose models at Bedale Station are two stockists that spring to mind! These are the ones that appear to best fit! https://www.walthers.com/walthers-cornerstone https://www.walthers.com/modern-grain-head-house-w-silos-kit-9-1-2-x-5-x-11-quot-24-1-x-12-7-x-27-9cm https://www.walthers.com/medusa-cement-company-kit-9-x-7-x-11-quot-22-5-x-17-5-x-27-5cm https://www.walthers.com/valley-cement-plant-kit Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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