Luke Palmer Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Hi all, I’m in need of some help regarding what signals I should have and where I should put them. Below is a track plan of my layout. Red = Mainline Green = sidings Purple = track to upper level Orange = track to lower level Any questions please feel free to ask Many thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Palmer Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 I forgot to mention, the outer Mainline track runs clockwise but both inner tracks run anti clockwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted December 23, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) Luke you need to define what is what before you can signal it Where are the platforms? Are the dead end lines sidings or terminal platforms? Is the purple runround a siding or a short running line? What are the inner green sidings? , if it's a yard there would only be exit signals with hand points and no signals within it. Add some labels and people will have more idea what's appropriate to help. Edited December 23, 2017 by PaulRhB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted December 23, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2017 Do you have any photos of the layout so we can get an idea of size ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Palmer Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) Luke you need to define what is what before you can signal it Where are the platforms? Are the dead end lines sidings or terminal platforms? Is the purple runround a siding or a short running line? What are the inner green sidings? , if it's a yard there would only be exit signals with hand points and no signals within it. Add some labels and people will have more idea what's appropriate to help. The outer Mainline track runs clockwise and the other two run anti clockwise Edited December 23, 2017 by Luke Palmer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Palmer Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 Do you have any photos of the layout so we can get an idea of size ? Don’t have any photos at the minute as I’m out but the layout is approximately 10ft x 10ft Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted December 23, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2017 Don’t have any photos at the minute as I’m out but the layout is approximately 10ft x 10ft Is it 00 or N ? If 00 the difficulty you have - a very common one - is the signals will be next to each other, there's no plain track between them which makes it very difficult to signal realistically. What signals are you proposing to use ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 What era and region, things did/do change depending on when and where you are. Signalling a layout is more a question of it looking and feeling right because there are so many exceptions to the rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Palmer Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 Is it 00 or N ? If 00 the difficulty you have - a very common one - is the signals will be next to each other, there's no plain track between them which makes it very difficult to signal realistically. What signals are you proposing to use ? I do 00 gauge and I'm planning to use berko/Eckon signals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted December 24, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2017 It will be very diificult and very expensive for you to provide full signalling - are you hoping to drive trains to the signals or provide some signals to add to the scenery ? As is tyical, it will be difficult to signal as the track plan is a model railway layout rather than a prototype - space restrictions make this a very difficult dilema - do I have a very limited prototype based layout or one which I can run several trains on ? Have you built this layout ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Palmer Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 It will be very diificult and very expensive for you to provide full signalling - are you hoping to drive trains to the signals or provide some signals to add to the scenery ? As is tyical, it will be difficult to signal as the track plan is a model railway layout rather than a prototype - space restrictions make this a very difficult dilema - do I have a very limited prototype based layout or one which I can run several trains on ? Have you built this layout ? This is my layout at the moment, I know it’s not the best of layouts but with a bit of ballasting and laying some static grass it should look ok. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted December 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 26, 2017 I notice you have two threads running - you need to report one and get it locked off or merged so we don't have two separate discussions. Nothing wrong with your layout - you can get a huge amount of enjoyment out of it and that's what it's all about. The problem is that doesn't make it possible to signal prototypically, or even close to being prototypical. On the other thread it was suggested that you can put some in for cosmetic purposes - thats about the best solution, you know how you like to run the trains, put some where you normally stop them and use them as stop/go indicators for your use rather than prototypical use. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted December 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) I've just been hopping between the two threads and agree with Dave about merging. As it stands the layout could take a few signals but they would have to be carefully positioned as to follow a prototype is not practical and you can get two results, either adding to the effect or looking a bit strange. Don't try to put a signal at every set of points. A few well placed signals will look better than a lot. Put some ground signals in sidings clear of where they join the running lines. Try to operate in a prototypical fashion. Don't have a train running up to a junction signal at red with a train crossing in front of it. Edited December 26, 2017 by TheSignalEngineer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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