sn Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I read somewhere recently that a single 0-6-0 US Dock Tank was transferred for a short period up to Bank Hall in the earlt 60's . Has anyone ever seen a photo of it in the Liverpool area, and do we know exactly where it worked during its short loan period? Len Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I read somewhere recently that a single 0-6-0 US Dock Tank was transferred for a short period up to Bank Hall in the earlt 60's . Has anyone ever seen a photo of it in the Liverpool area, and do we know exactly where it worked during its short loan period? Len There are a couple of paragraphs on the exploits of 30061 & 30066 north of the Thames in https://www.amazon.co.uk/Story-Southern-Tanks-Howard-Sprenger/dp/0954485939 ....... but the authors state that - at time of publication - they had been unable to track down any photos : OK everyone was concentrating on 'namers' rather than boring old freight engines that would be around for ever - but SOMEONE should have spotted that these were just a little bit special, shouldn't they !!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) Not really that special seeing as they used USA tanks on other local dock systems during the war. Bromborough and Port Sunlight ISTR. It was about 1950 1955 rather than the 1960s, the dock system was already being dieselised by then. I think it was because they were pondering about purchasing some stored locomotives but they weren't suitable. Jason Edited February 27, 2018 by Steamport Southport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Not really that special seeing as they used USA tanks on other local dock systems during the war. Bromborough and Port Sunlight ISTR. It was about 1950 1955 rather than the 1960s, the dock system was already being dieselised by then. I think it was because they were pondering about purchasing some stored locomotives but they weren't suitable. Jason About 1958 ...... by which time I very much doubt there were any still stored ........... but IF there had been, they wouldn't have been in tip-top condition - even the Southern had to choose carefully from what was available a decade earlier ! : not suitable - probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I altered it to 1955 as that was the date that it had in the other thread. I always assumed there was a stockpile of them somewhere for years that they couldn't sell. I can't see any other reason for trying one out seeing as they already had adequate LMS dock shunters and were going down the dieselisation path. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2018 Most of the USATC 0-6-0T's were shipped off to Europe pretty quickly after the end of the war to help rebuild the railways there. I think the Southern had to grab what they could before they were shipped off. I even seem to remember they kept the ones they were already using, effectively never gave them back lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Most of the USATC 0-6-0T's were shipped off to Europe pretty quickly after the end of the war to help rebuild the railways there. I think the Southern had to grab what they could before they were shipped off. I even seem to remember they kept the ones they were already using, effectively never gave them back lol. Sorry about the date - YES, it was '55 that '66 went on holiday to Liverpool and '61 went to north London ....... '58 was '66's turn to go to north London. The Southern only had one USA tank on trial and they did, indeed, retain it working at Southampton - in USATC livery - into BR days ........ meanwhile, they had chosen a number of its brethren from the Newbury Dump - sent a few back and found a few more possibles before amassing a total of fourteen they wanted to keep ( plus one 'christmas tree' ) ........................... full details in The Story of the Southern USA Tanks, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall5 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Don't forget the one at Austin Longbridge and didn't the NCB have also have one in the North East? Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted March 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) Don't forget the one at Austin Longbridge and didn't the NCB have also have one in the North East? Ray. Longbridge had two. Both were Davenports, so not quite the same as the SR ones. Locomotive Type Manufacturer Built Works No Acquired Disposal Ada II 0-6-0T Davenport Locomotive Works, Iowa 1943 2503 1947 from USATC Scrapped 1957 No, 5 0-6-0T Davenport Locomotive Works, Iowa 1943 2505 1949 from Morris Nuffield Works Scrapped 1958 Information from http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/misc/austin-motors.htm There is a picture of No. 5 near Longbridge East box in Roger Shenton's book 'Changing Tracks' and a picture of one carrying the number WD1938 reputedly shunting at Longbridge also exists. From the lists available on the net this would correspond with the USATC number for Davenport 2503. Edited March 1, 2018 by TheSignalEngineer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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