allan downes Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 I’m surprised that no one’s mentioned “The man who shot Liberty Valance” Oh, yes! Sorry about "The man who shot Liberty Valance" but it desperately scrapes the bottom of my most boring Western List. Only good bits I can just about recall is when given every opportunity, Lee Marvin really hammed up his character as LV and helped along by Lee Van Cleef's equally hamming it up as his side kick, Reese. Jimmy Stewart on the other hand was an absolute bore in every scene he appeared in. Too much apple pie, not enough gun play for me. Yet, and given a better script and opportunity, Lee Marvin positively shines in "The Professionals " as does Lee Van Cleef in "The good, the bad, and the ugly " It's sometimes a case of good actors trying to make a good fist out of a crap script than it is of a crap script trying to make a good fist out of good actors - and of course, Micheal Caine was the master at this where he was once quoted as saying " Give me anything. If there's good money in it, I'll do it. And most times even if there isn't which for most times there wasn't. I'm in this industry to collect money, not Oscars" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Steve Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Good to see another vote for "Bad Day at Black Rock", a film I never tire of seeing. Got it on dvd but still have to sit watch it when it pops up on TCM at the weekends. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 Good to see another vote for "Bad Day at Black Rock", a film I never tire of seeing. Got it on dvd but still have to sit watch it when it pops up on TCM at the weekends. Yes indeed, a very good film for its time and only Spencer Tracy could have taken the part. Truly an all round excellent movie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Steve Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Another all time fave of mine is John Houston's "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre" with Humphrey Bogart, not a western as such, but surely in the spirit of? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) And who could ever forget James Coburn in Waterhole Three ? Magnificent. An absolute must see movie ! Edited March 5, 2018 by allan downes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted March 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2018 Has anybody mentioned The Quick and the Dead? Another in the category of probably not great art but solid entertainment and good fun, Gene Hackman was his usual solid and reliable self hamming it up as John Herod and Sharon Stone playing a surprisingly strong role. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted March 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2018 Has anybody mentioned The Quick and the Dead? Another in the category of probably not great art but solid entertainment and good fun, Gene Hackman was his usual solid and reliable self hamming it up as John Herod and Sharon Stone playing a surprisingly strong role. I know it... big clock from memory Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 Watched a great movie last night - a kind of Australian Western, Quigley Down Under with Tom Selleck and Alan Rickman. An unusual casting you might think, but can you think of one any better ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 That is a terrific detail. Bear in mind that I only know about the gravestone because Fistful was on TV a couple of weeks ago. It's not like I've remembered it for 30 years or anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) Another almost forgotten Western with Gregory Peck, Omar Sharif with great supporting cast is M'Kenna's Gold. Edited March 6, 2018 by allan downes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted March 7, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7, 2018 Bear in mind that I only know about the gravestone because Fistful was on TV a couple of weeks ago. It's not like I've remembered it for 30 years or anything. but... This is the point.. he finds the Poncho in the last 15 mins of TGTBATU. So he finds it 1865 for example and he rides into Fist full in 1873 or later wearing the Poncho. Its a prequel (at least as far as his clothes are concerned Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted March 7, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2018 but... This is the point.. he finds the Poncho in the last 15 mins of TGTBATU. So he finds it 1865 for example and he rides into Fist full in 1873 or later wearing the Poncho. Its a prequel (at least as far as his clothes are concerned Andy Lady Bacon drives me mad pointing out continuity within a programme, but she's never taken it across several films. . . . . . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 Anybody remember this one ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) Calamity Jane. How she was And how she definitely wasn't ! Edited March 7, 2018 by allan downes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Another almost forgotten Western with Gregory Peck, Omar Sharif with great supporting cast is M'Kenna's Gold. A stark reminder that these days we just don't seem to have many actors (if any at all) with the same class and of the same calibre as the likes of Gregory Peck, Omar Sharif, James Coburn, Robert Vaughan, Burt Lancaster, Steve McQueen, James Garner, Anthony Quinn, Paul Newman, Jimmy Stewart, Henry Fonda, Spencer Tracey... etc... etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 A stark reminder that these days we just don't seem to have many actors (if any at all) with the same class and of the same calibre as the likes of Gregory Peck, Omar Sharif, James Coburn, Robert Vaughan, Burt Lancaster, Steve McQueen, James Garner, Anthony Quinn, Paul Newman, Jimmy Stewart, Henry Fonda, Spencer Tracey... etc... etc... Be careful - reminiscing about such a male dominated film industry will be frowned on today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Be careful - reminiscing about such a male dominated film industry will be frowned on today Or in the immortal words of Rhet Butler, 'frankly my dear .........' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) Be careful - reminiscing about such a male dominated film industry will be frowned on today The big difference between yesterday's female hero's was that they mostly looked old enough and tough enough to lead men into war than ever could today's unconvincing replacements of Barbie Dolls - all hips, teeth and tits- put in charge of SWAT Squads and FBI Units. Excepting for Sigourney Weaver of course who's far too busy to be gunning down today's baddies in SCI New York when she has her hands full kicking Alien butt in the truly magnificent Aliens movies. Edited March 7, 2018 by allan downes 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) Sam Elliot. As good as the best ? Here he is almost unrecognizable from his first Western as the gambler in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid although he was uncredited And his more common image as we see him now Edited March 7, 2018 by allan downes 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted March 7, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7, 2018 Calamity Jane. How she was And how she definitely wasn't ! What intrests me is that in the film, Calamity Jane she is transformed into a fashionable well dressed, well groomed woman. I preferred her in her buck skins.. is that just me? Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted March 7, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7, 2018 Does "No Country for Old Men" count as a Western? Terrific film that, very violent and in places it is genuinely cringe inducing but brilliant nevertheless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gringo Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 It did for me in post 91, when I ranked it alongside 'Bad Day at Black Rock' (1954, Spencer Tracy). And then there's 'Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada' (2005) ranked on the box as "Evocative of Peckinpah's death-drenched Mexican masterworks 'The Wild Bunch' and 'Bring me the Head of Alfredo Garcia' (1974)" - Now there's a strange film, another crazy 'Modern Western' with Warren Oates driving around with a head in a bag! Try the Calamity Jane of the Deadwood series, if you want a different take to Doris Day - Same Buckskins, but a really potty mouth. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gringo Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Sam Elliot. As good as the best ? Here he is almost unrecognizable from his first Western as the gambler in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid although he was uncredited And his more common image as we see him now Allan, Is that second shot from 'The Desperate Trail' (1994) where he plays lawman, Bill Speakes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted March 7, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7, 2018 What intrests me is that in the film, Calamity Jane she is transformed into a fashionable well dressed, well groomed woman. I preferred her in her buck skins.. is that just me? Andy over an hour and a half since I posted this... it is just me then Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share Posted March 8, 2018 Allan, Is that second shot from 'The Desperate Trail' (1994) where he plays lawman, Bill Speakes? Not quite sure OG, but I would have thought "Tombstone " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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