RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted February 10, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Keith J said: Here's your answer. The odd thing for me is that they managed to get the speed whiskers correct on the 00 model so why not this one? Thanks. It's not even that they've simply used the 122 ones as they have squared the ends off. Edited February 10, 2022 by Hal Nail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
70E Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Keith J said: Here's your answer. The odd thing for me is that they managed to get the speed whiskers correct on the 00 model so why not this one? Apart from that, beautiful model. Mine has been delivered today and looking at the photo I'm wondering whether to bother even opening it or to send it straight back and exchange for a yellow panel, it looks so wrong without the whiskers meeting in the middle, as mentioned how could they get it right for the oo version and so wrong for o gauge? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Got mine with small yellow panel and have fitted a Loksound 21 pin V5 and after a bit of remapping got all the lights to work as I want without having to take a soldering iron to it. For me I like directional lighting on F0 so red white changing as the direction changes plus cab lights follow the direction selected but turned on and off on another F key. Did a quick auto tune using CV54 and it seems to run ok but only run it for one minute at most. It will be run in after I finish the remapping of other functions as I tend to standardise functions across my fleet. The picture shows it on the Lok Programmer without all the extra bits added. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Mines running lovely. Few tweaks of the motor settings in the V5 Loksound and it’s running well. Even RR&Co likes it. I was not driving. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Congratulations to Dapol. They have learnt lessons from the class 122 and applied them to the 121. I fitted a Zimo decoder and this time there was no need to modify the wiring, all lights worked and with a bit of function remapping I am well pleased. Also, the slow running is certainly better no need to switch off back EMF, runs very smoothly. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, norman said: Congratulations to Dapol. They have learnt lessons from the class 122 and applied them to the 121. I fitted a Zimo decoder and this time there was no need to modify the wiring, all lights worked and with a bit of function remapping I am well pleased. Also, the slow running is certainly better no need to switch off back EMF, runs very smoothly. I was prepared to send mine back before it had arrived if it ran badly after reading all the complaints about the 122. Lights can be sorted out but motor issues are another problem especially if it’s physical problems. I did clear out the thick grease that was packed around the gears, horrible stuff. But very pleased with it and will now move towards adding all the bits in bags in the box. Edited February 12, 2022 by two tone green Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Here is my blue one which arrived today, not ran it yet but it looks nice. The buffer heads should be oval for my prototype so will look into changing them. Not run it yet so hope all OK. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Looks good in blue. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddys-blues Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Hello, I received my trio of pre-orders from Rails, well worth the wait , stunning models, and an absolute bargain really considering they are 7mm models. Best regards Craig 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddys-blues Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Here are the other ends, Best regards Craig 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted February 13, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) Just out of interest, do you get a destination blind sheet as with the 122 (there was a box in the middle window on the 121) and if so, have they amended the typos? Follow up question, does anyone know the dimensions of the 121 window blind and the width of strip above and below? I can estimate obviously but if anyone knows that would be better. @railtec-models do a custom destination blind in 4mm so I would hope this could be scaled up to use in a scratch built box for the 121. Edited February 13, 2022 by Hal Nail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railtec-models Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Hal Nail said: @railtec-models do a custom destination blind in 4mm so I would hope this could be scaled up to use in a scratch built box for the 121. It already is. A quick search on "destination blind" on the web site reveals: https://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=4514 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Hal Nail said: Just out of interest, do you get a destination blind sheet as with the 122 (there was a box in the middle window on the 121) and if so, have they amended the typos? Follow up question, does anyone know the dimensions of the 121 window blind and the width of strip above and below? I can estimate obviously but if anyone knows that would be better. @railtec-models do a custom destination blind in 4mm so I would hope this could be scaled up to use in a scratch built box for the 121. Yes you do there are a number of blank boxes to which you can add the destinations, the typo's are still there however eg "St Earth". Frustratingly no "Severn Beach" is included. The instructions are not clear, are these waterslide transfers please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted February 13, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 13, 2022 33 minutes ago, 37114 said: Yes you do there are a number of blank boxes to which you can add the destinations, the typo's are still there however eg "St Earth". Frustratingly no "Severn Beach" is included. The instructions are not clear, are these waterslide transfers please? Thanks. I assume the "sized for 00" is a hangover from their other model! I'd make up a box personally to get the relief but the lettering is really useful and the sizing gives a handy guide. You would think the white lettering must be waterslide - try with somewhere spare! If so some of the typos can probably be amended quite easily by cutting, eg losing the "a" from Earth but Railtec can do you a Severn Beach. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Included in my box is an etched brass sheet marked as class 121 door step ???? ???? The last two words I can not read. They look like they should be folded on the eteched lines and fitted under the door - but they are painted green. Any one have any clue? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, norman said: Included in my box is an etched brass sheet marked as class 121 door step ???? ???? The last two words I can not read. They look like they should be folded on the eteched lines and fitted under the door - but they are painted green. Any one have any clue? No idea, I can't read it either, interestingly they are loose in the blue one. The destination blinds included are not useable, they are way oversized! Going to either use Railtec or make my own Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted February 13, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 13, 2022 On 17/06/2018 at 08:08, Ressaldar said: Lets hope that Dapol remember the 'central locking plates' over the footsteps one I did a couple of years back, a Bachmann/San Cheng O Gauge model.- reading the Spec on the DCC Supplies website, they are not mentioned. 1 hour ago, norman said: Included in my box is an etched brass sheet marked as class 121 door step ???? ???? Any one have any clue? These? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted February 13, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 13, 2022 3 hours ago, railtec-models said: It already is. A quick search on "destination blind" on the web site reveals: https://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=4514 Apologies for my sloppy post - I'll waive my commission for the plug What I wasnt sure is if transfers designed for the 122 box (or similar), will fit in the 121 window but they will be a better fit than Dapols by the look of it - you should be in for some custom! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Included in the detail bits are these bits which are the destination blind boxes, it is not obvious what they are until you whip the cab out 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, 37114 said: No idea, I can't read it either, interestingly they are loose in the blue one. The destination blinds included are not useable, they are way oversized! Going to either use Railtec or make my own The head code box contains two clear plastic inserts. I removed the outer one with a snatched black tack - applied the transfer to the inside face of the out piece and let it dry before trimming to size and reassembling. Perfect. Edited February 13, 2022 by norman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Hal Nail said: These? Well I have never noticed these additional steps. Did they fold automatically when the door was opened and closed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, norman said: The head code box contains two clear plastic inserts. I removed the outer one with a snatched black tack - applied the transfer to the inside face of the out piece and let it dry before trimming to size and reassembling. Perfect. Unfortunately that is not correct as destination blind goes in the top of the middle window on the class 121, the roof box was used for the 4 digit headcodes. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 The transfers supplied are undersize for the head code panel so made my own. Plus some destination plates. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted February 13, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) Pretty clear head on photo on here showing the proportions. The blind is slightly recessed compared to the top and bottom strip as it is a roller behind an opening in the box. https://www.railcar.co.uk/type/class-121/operations Edited February 13, 2022 by Hal Nail 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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