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NMRA posts details of their check procedures for anyone who wants to see if their home brew kit meets spec.

 

This is for decoders...

https://www.nmra.org/dcc-decoder-test-system

 

This is a DCC signal generator...

https://www.nmra.org/test-board-theory-operation

 

This is their conformance and inspection...

https://www.nmra.org/conformance-and-inspection-main-page

 

Rob

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NMRA posts details of their check procedures for anyone who wants to see if their home brew kit meets spec.

 

This is for decoders...

https://www.nmra.org/dcc-decoder-test-system

 

This is a DCC signal generator...

https://www.nmra.org/test-board-theory-operation

 

This is their conformance and inspection...

https://www.nmra.org/conformance-and-inspection-main-page

 

Rob

Hi Rob

 

Am I missing something as I can't find any reference to the actual hardware itself?

There are plenty of operating instructions and tips on construction but no actual hardware to construct.

It's all a bit old fashioned anyway, being in DOS and using a plug in slot (ISA) 99% of PCs probably haven't got!

 

Keith

 

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Hi Rob

 

Am I missing something as I can't find any reference to the actual hardware itself?

There are plenty of operating instructions and tips on construction but no actual hardware to construct.

It's all a bit old fashioned anyway, being in DOS and using a plug in slot (ISA) 99% of PCs probably haven't got!

 

Keith

 

K

What is on the NMRA site is all there is. You may be better off trawling Lenz website, at least they post all their protocols in the public domain. I just wish it was compulsory for all other manufacturers to so do.

 

Rob

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Interfaces and protocols such as Loconet are proprietary to Digitrax and you need to purchase a licence to use them and I feel that Railcom may be similar :(

 

Roco has placed the Multimaus protocol in the public domain, hence people being able to use the WiFi version on other systems that have chosen to implement the protocol.

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Interfaces and protocols such as Loconet are proprietary to Digitrax and you need to purchase a licence to use them and I feel that Railcom may be similar :(

 

Roco has placed the Multimaus protocol in the public domain, hence people being able to use the WiFi version on other systems that have chosen to implement the protocol.

Railcom was patented by Lenz and the patents donated to the NMRA working group. No licence fee is payable for implementation.

 

Keith

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Interfaces and protocols such as Loconet are proprietary to Digitrax and you need to purchase a licence to use them and I feel that Railcom may be similar :(

 

Roco has placed the Multimaus protocol in the public domain, hence people being able to use the WiFi version on other systems that have chosen to implement the protocol.

 

 

Railcom was patented by Lenz and the patents donated to the NMRA working group. No licence fee is payable for implementation.

 

Keith

 

And doesn't the MultiMaus use XpressNet, also a Lenz protocol, so not Roco's to place in the public domain. The protocol doc is freely available from the Lenz web site (or was).

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But Multimaus use of Xpressnet over wifi is very much theirs to place in the public domain ;)

 

Lenz doesnt have that capability - if they had surely they would have used that in the new handsets rather than requiring you to but a belt adapter and a 23151 to gain the 'wireless' capabilty - a very expensive and proprietary solution (for the consumer) to solve a problem that has already been solved.

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By and large once you conform to the DCC bit timings and protocol, which is quite simple , your command station will work with any DCC decoder.

 

Note that design uses a SN755410 darlington driver, these are very inefficient and there’s NO WAY you’ll draw 2A out of that chip , 500mA is the practical max , with 1A peak pulse

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By and large once you conform to the DCC bit timings and protocol, which is quite simple , your command station will work with any DCC decoder.

 

Note that design uses a SN755410 darlington driver, these are very inefficient and there’s NO WAY you’ll draw 2A out of that chip , 500mA is the practical max , with 1A peak pulse

That's an obsolescent 30 year old design, designed for TTL logic.

IMHO Mosfets would be much better.

 

Keith

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