RMweb Gold Nickey Line Posted December 7, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 7, 2018 Hi, I'm hoping to build some unfitted Grampus wagons from a selection of bits and I'm looking at obtaining transfers. Looking at the ModelMasters website there are 3 sheets (1948-1965) available for engineers wagons; they all appear to be identical other than the colour - white, straw or yellow. This has confused me somewhat as I thought the lettering on unfitted Grampuses was white?? Can anyone shed some light on this? Ta! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Hi, I'm hoping to build some unfitted Grampus wagons from a selection of bits and I'm looking at obtaining transfers. Looking at the ModelMasters website there are 3 sheets (1948-1965) available for engineers wagons; they all appear to be identical other than the colour - white, straw or yellow. This has confused me somewhat as I thought the lettering on unfitted Grampuses was white?? Can anyone shed some light on this? Ta! I wasn't very happy with the ModelMaster transfers that I bought so used those from Cambridge Custom Transfers instead. As for yellow v white, I have seen photographs of both fitted and unfitted with white or yellow lettering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nickey Line Posted December 7, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) I wasn't very happy with the ModelMaster transfers that I bought so used those from Cambridge Custom Transfers instead. As for yellow v white, I have seen photographs of both fitted and unfitted with white or yellow lettering. I've gone for white, seems to be the most common... Edited December 7, 2018 by whinge-n-moan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) Hi, I'm hoping to build some unfitted Grampus wagons from a selection of bits and I'm looking at obtaining transfers. Looking at the ModelMasters website there are 3 sheets (1948-1965) available for engineers wagons; they all appear to be identical other than the colour - white, straw or yellow. This has confused me somewhat as I thought the lettering on unfitted Grampuses was white?? Can anyone shed some light on this? Ta! Have you got prototype photo's to work from? I had the same problem a few months ago. I'm not at home now but check my workbench thread below, that might help. I'll have a look at what I used when I'm at home. Steve. Edited December 8, 2018 by sb67 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Black livery until 1961 should have straw lettering - yellow lining paint. Not many colour photos around from that period, plenty of non repaints from later years where the writing is renewed - in white because that is what goes with the gulf red or olive green engineers liveries from 1961 & 1963 respectively. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted December 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 8, 2018 Sometimes the colour varied over the Region(s) and even areas. I'm sure I got some details about this when I was doing mine for (mainly) Meldon Quarry wagons. I'll try to remember to get that out ASAP if I can actually find it. There may be some info in a couple of books I have, but Paul B's info is spot on as usual. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted December 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 8, 2018 Oh yes, deffo worth choosing some Lanarkshire Models Buffers for these wagons; makes a huge difference. Just checked my 'box of kits'. Parkside suggest black with straw lettering for at least steam era. I have also done hybrid versions using Dapol Bodies and PS underframes. They look OK as well. Just going to check my books.P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted December 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) My best reference book for my period is Don Rowland's BR Wagons, the first half million. There area couple of really helpful pictures/drawings in there but no mention of branding colours. Sorry. CCT doe both Straw and White so I have used both as my layout covers approximately 1958 until 1964/5/6ish. Not changed the buffers or fitted couplings on these (Grampus is a Broadclyst wagon in my world) and it was really to show the weathering and the SLAG sticker on the van! P Edited December 8, 2018 by Mallard60022 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 46444 Posted December 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 8, 2018 Another satisfied user of Cambridge Custom Transfers. Great range which covers all regions and ease of use. Well recommended. Cheers, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nickey Line Posted December 8, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 8, 2018 Many thanks to you all for your help... managed to get my order for white transfers changed to straw, which would seem to be more appropriate; I was a bit hasty in placing the order! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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