Is this photo at Wreay (WCML)?

[Mike at C&M]

My father does a lot of photo-archiving work, and came across the picture below that is labelled as being at Wreay, a few miles south of Carlisle.

 

However, Wreay was LNWR, whilst the box and signals suggest Midland.

 

So can anyone enlighten us as to where this picture may have been taken.

 

Thanking you for you help in advance.

 

[TheSignalEngineer]

Don't know where it is except possibly S&C. Don't think Wreay on the WCML ever had a level crossing.

 

[LMS2968]

I have this - and other - photo somewhere but can't quite find it, although I was looking at it a couple of weeks ago. But it's somewhere on the Midland, but I don't think S&C.

 

I'll look again tomorrow.

[adb968008]

Google search gives this match...

5581 Rail Crash at Steeton, Yorkshire in 1943

[TheSignalEngineer]

The streetview image from the bridge which replaced the level crossing confirms that it is the site of the present Steeton and Silsden station. Hill in the background is a perfect match.

 

[TheSignalEngineer]

Another shot of it

From Davod Busfield's Flickr site. Picture by The Leeds Press Agency.

 

 

Edited February 6, 2019 by TheSignalEngineer
Credit for picture amended

[AberdeenBill]

There doesn't seem to be an accident report on the Railways Archive site, perhaps due to the War??    Did the train collide with a wagon fouling the main line, hence the mangled remains to the rear of the signal and the straw scattered everywhere??

 

Bill 

[adb968008]

Collision with a local goods, which was shunting.

 

5581 was an overnight Glasgow - St Pancras service.

it is suggested its later rebuild following this accident meant its near survival, as a preservation candidate due to its good mechanical condition.

Edited February 7, 2019 by adb968008

[beast66606]

http://keighleyhistory.proboards.com/thread/454/leed-edinburgh-train-crash-steeton

 

Quote

I was recently sent a query about a train crash between Steeton & Silsden - I found the answer in Ian Dewhirst book - A History of Keighley, I though some of you might be interested.

It happened on 11 October 1943 - when the Leeds to Edinburgh express train collided with a freight train which was being shunted into a siding. Wreckage was strewn across 200 yards
of the track and over the level crossing blocking the road between Steeton and Silsden. The Express train toppled
onto its side, it carriages overturned or derailed.

Ten freight wagons were smashed - two ending up in the station masters garden, scattering sacks of cattle cake intended for
Skipton.

Although the express was carrying some 200 passengers, there were no fatalities and only four people were briefly
detained in Keighley Victoria Hospital. Edward Bonner the train driver had been driving since 1908 without experiencing any
previous accident - he escaped serious injury by clinging to a rail inside his cab.

Mrs Little the Steeton, Stationmaster's wife, did the best she could for the shocked and temporarily stranded passengers.

 

[Mike at C&M]

Thank you to everyone for their replies to this thread. Knowing the current residents of Wreay station, they are intrigued by what might have happened outside their back door.

[adb968008]

6 hours ago, beast66606 said:

http://keighleyhistory.proboards.com/thread/454/leed-edinburgh-train-crash-steeton

 

 

Interesting, only one of us is correct, i’m Quoting this book...

LONDON MIDLAND & SCOTTISH

By Bill Horsfall

 

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=kmjrBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA151&lpg=PA151&dq=5581+bihar+orissa+steeton&source=bl&ots=jMYEjjXSsy&sig=ACfU3U39xp6AyN9mm_LVlgLUtcdDkLhx8Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiYvIOtxqrgAhUHRxUIHcuoBxkQ6AEwDHoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=5581 bihar orissa steeton&f=false

 

i guess it’s an easy answer.. is the train going north or south ?

looking at the picture, it looks like the book may be erroneous ?

Edited February 7, 2019 by adb968008

[beast66606]

The line next to the box is the Up (Southbound) line - which means the passenger was on the down which fits in with the quote I posted.