Rods_of_Revolution Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Does anyone know which diagram of ferry van these vehicles were converted from? Any other details of their history, construction and use would be most welcome. This is the type of vehicle I'm refering too: https://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/I/IFA-flats/IFA-G-STVA-4-unit-vehicle/ Cheers, Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Not sure of the Diagram, but it was the last type of standard SNCF Ferry Van. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Found this picture from a quick Google, not sure if something similar to this, with trussing added at conversion? Jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Whilst the brake levers are superceded by wheels on the conversions, the 'U' shaped V-hangers are still present. Indeed, they're what alerted me to the vehicles' origin in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 I was under the impression that these were low sided opens rather like the continental version of a plate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 It was only a throwaway comment from someone more knowledgeable than I about car carriers a while back that led us to the idea that they were conversions. All I knew was something continental. It's a shame the Portbury train hasn't run since last year, otherwise I'd be out for some close up pics! Jo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) The STVA wagons were conversions, which first appeared in the late 1990s. The vans virtually disappeared with the opening of the Channel Tunnel, apart from a small pool used as match wagons with Eurostar movements and Pendeliino deliveries. The flats hung around for a while longer, their last workings being loads of Engineer's Bar to Wolverhampton and Wakefield. These are the vans:- https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/frenchferryvan The low-sided opens that Mark refers to used the same chassis; neither had the trussing. I suspect that had been added post-conversion to introduce more rigidity to the structure, to avoid twist, which might give ride problems. Edited February 9, 2019 by Fat Controller 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 These are the SNCF registered steel carriers I was referring to! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 The first wagon is as built, and is in use as a spacer wagon on trains of sections from Shelton Bar. The wagon to the right will be a Cargowaggon bogie flat- some of the section that Shelton exported was too long for even the longest of these, which was about 75' long, and so runner/spacer wagons were required to accommodate the overhang. The second wagon has been modified to act as a coupler adaptor between a train fitted with Scharfenberg couplings, and a loco equipped with UIC ones. Looking at the photo, a gloss black protuberance , between the buffers, holds the coupling head, whilst the air-pipes have been specially extended. I haven't seen any of these wagons for a while; most recent deliveries have used modified VTG Ferrywaggons. One thing the second photo does show is that the trussing wa p resent before the wagons were converted to vehicle carriers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 This link to Google shows them in use in 2012 delivering new Pendolinos. Explains the conversion to a Dellner / Scharfenberg type coupling https://www.google.com/search?q=pendolino+delivery+colas&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwid3JGS26_gAhUNw-AKHfqFBVMQ2-cCegQIABAC&oq=pendolino+delivery+colas&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-img.3...18226.20275..20491...0.0..0.99.786.10......0....1.........35i39.pLcdQnbmoco&ei=wVVfXN33EI2Ggwf6i5aYBQ&bih=652&biw=412&client=ms-android-hmd-rev2&prmd=inmv#imgrc=mPjQl_turgIcAM Jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 My photo of the adaptor is when delivering the additional centre cars to Neville Hill to lengthen the three car sets to four! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods_of_Revolution Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 Cheers for the contributions chaps. With the info gleaned from this thread I've now found an album on Paul Bartlet's site: https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/frenchferryopen Diagram E342 seems to be the correct one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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