RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted January 31, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2022 16 hours ago, Alex Neth said: I have seen that before, but I'm not a huge fan of it. I like the way it looks, but it looks too old, I would like something a little bit more accurate like these, not the one with everything new from the model era on it just smashed into every corner. But what could be more "accurate" than Awdry's own map? 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted January 31, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 29/01/2022 at 23:47, JayWizzleHizzle said: I'm aware how tiring it must be for yall to always hear about Sodor and Thomas and all that, I totally get it. Every time I watch a video about a british engine and some 9 year-old needs to tell people in the comments what TTTE character it is or looks like, I roll my eyes just as hard as you all do. They can't be as tedious as the dozens who post in every video featuring Hugh Laurie, having just made the astounding discovery that he and House share a body. Actually the Sodor system is a good basis for whiffing if purged of unnecessary fanboiism. I'd like to see it worked by locos designed and supplied by private builders, rather than the usual derivatives of company types. Perhaps it could develop a slightly Australian vibe? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted January 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Flying Pig said: I'd like to see it worked by locos designed and supplied by private builders, rather than the usual derivatives of company types. Perhaps it could develop a slightly Australian vibe? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Edited January 31, 2022 by Corbs 10 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted January 31, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2022 44 minutes ago, Corbs said: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) I'd actually seen those and managed to forget them completely, perhaps because I was thinking of honking great 20th Century designs. They're absolutely convincing and quite beautiful. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Neth Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 5 hours ago, Compound2632 said: But what could be more "accurate" than Awdry's own map? Nothing is wrong about it, it just looks old, not that old is bad. For me it doesn't vibe smoothly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted January 31, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Alex Neth said: For me it doesn't vibe smoothly. I suspect I'm too old for that... 4 minutes ago, Alex Neth said: old, not that old is bad. ... that's what I keep telling myself! 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 5 hours ago, Compound2632 said: But what could be more "accurate" than Awdry's own map? Reference Terry Pratchett again. Pterry was never unduly troubled about continuity, and certainly didn't let it get in the way of a good joke (until the last few books, which have a distinct case of Niven's Syndrome). Over time, the general geography of Discworld developed into a recognisable form but it was never quite finalised.. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tythatguy1312 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 you should see how often Sodor's changed layout, Henry's tunnel has been on both ends of the island at varying points 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted January 31, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Alex Neth said: Nothing is wrong about it, it just looks old, not that old is bad. For me it doesn't vibe smoothly. Surely you need a period map - an inter-war OS one inch or one of the Bartholomew half-inch series - to show the system at its full extent? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph the L&YR lover Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 hours ago, tythatguy1312 said: you should see how often Sodor's changed layout, Henry's tunnel has been on both ends of the island at varying points a diference between the show and books. mainly cause the show stays on the west coast and the books move from the east to the west from book 1-3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted January 31, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2022 Bit of a diversion ... came across this painting I did around 20 years ago thought I share it... Early morning at Bree MPD with an Elven class about to go off shed, in the background is a heavy freight Orc class brewing up, this one shows signs of a rough shunt on the corner of it side tank, behind the Elven is a second Elven that has its cab weather sheet down over the side as she is currently stopped for a piston and valve exam 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Neth Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Flying Pig said: Surely you need a period map - an inter-war OS one inch or one of the Bartholomew half-inch series - to show the system at its full extent? Could you show an example of what you mean? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted January 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2022 23 minutes ago, John Besley said: Bit of a diversion ... came across this painting I did around 20 years ago thought I share it... Early morning at Bree MPD with an Elven class about to go off shed, in the background is a heavy freight Orc class brewing up, this one shows signs of a rough shunt on the corner of it side tank, behind the Elven is a second Elven that has its cab weather sheet down over the side as she is currently stopped for a piston and valve exam Love this. The colouring and character remind me of a nod to Peter Barnfield's Whimshire series, but with a more believable tone. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCB Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 9 hours ago, Corbs said: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) That's exactly the sort of loco I could see being built for Sodor in 1895 ish and run until the 1930's and then rebuilt to look much like Edward! Not sure anything larger than a 4mt was needed... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 The Orc looks like a 94XX. Your Elvens look like Snowdon locos simplified for adhesion service. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Neth Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, DCB said: That's exactly the sort of loco I could see being built for Sodor in 1895 ish and run until the 1930's and then rebuilt to look much like Edward! Not sure anything larger than a 4mt was needed... I have a question, what were the pre-grouping companies for the NWR and their locomotives? I forgot what they were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Neth Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, AlfaZagato said: The Orc looks like a 94XX. More looks like a 15XX with the outside pistons. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted January 31, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alex Neth said: More looks like a 15XX with the outside pistons. They where massive 0-8-0's there biggest let down was the cylinders on the early loco's being under sized. they also used far more coal than was expected and of the class of 6 all had modifications during their working life, much of it just pipework bashed into place they spent much of their working lives on heavy mine trains from the Morodor quarries Edited January 31, 2022 by John Besley 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted January 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Alex Neth said: I have a question, what were the pre-grouping companies for the NWR and their locomotives? I forgot what they were. PM me your email and I'll send you the TIOS bible 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted January 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, DCB said: That's exactly the sort of loco I could see being built for Sodor in 1895 ish and run until the 1930's and then rebuilt to look much like Edward! Not sure anything larger than a 4mt was needed... Forgive me father 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Neth Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, Corbs said: PM me your email and I'll send you the TIOS bible You got it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCB Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Corbs said: Forgive me father Nice model. Two 04 chassis under a Garrett. Makes sense if they assembled 100 wagon plus goods. Would have been cost effective using surplus WD 2-8-0s 1920 ish. Then could have made a couple of 4-6-0s like B6 (?) for the cost of the chassis with S/H boilers and tenders. Maybe use outside walschaerts valve gear. Big green 4-6-0 with outside cylinders, belpaire boiler and side window cab. Sounds familiar. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted February 1, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 hours ago, DCB said: Nice model. Two 04 chassis under a Garrett. Makes sense if they assembled 100 wagon plus goods. Would have been cost effective using surplus WD 2-8-0s 1920 ish. Then could have made a couple of 4-6-0s like B6 (?) for the cost of the chassis with S/H boilers and tenders. Maybe use outside walschaerts valve gear. Big green 4-6-0 with outside cylinders, belpaire boiler and side window cab. Sounds familiar. Well one must find excuses to acquire what one desires! This is based on an earlier iteration of the Worsborough Banker which became the U1, where the running gear of the 8Ks was suggested (along with a more typical belpaire firebox). So before Gresley’s department had intervened. To justify such a machine in the North West required significant geographical and traffic flow alterations! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph the L&YR lover Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 9 hours ago, DCB said: That's exactly the sort of loco I could see being built for Sodor in 1895 ish and run until the 1930's and then rebuilt to look much like Edward! Not sure anything larger than a 4mt was needed... just forget they have an A1...although after the 39 rebuild it was less strong so eh? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccormackpj Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 29/01/2022 at 16:10, Alex Neth said: Hmmm, maybe I could make a model of this someday... Here's an image of part of the article in the Railway Magazine Mar-Apr 1949 which featured the K2 tank. Perhaps a bit more useful for making that model? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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