DavidB-AU Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 12 hours ago, PhilJ W said: Many American homes have large basements and quite a few have extensive model railways in them. How to build a home in the USA: 1) Dig a hole. 2) Build a house on it. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tythatguy1312 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 I'm pretty sure they just don't fill in the foundations after placing the structural support at this point because I've seen basements big enough to fit a Routemaster in, albeit sideways. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, DavidB-AU said: How to build a home in the USA: 1) Dig a hole. 2) Build a house on it. It helps that the water table is a whole lot lower in the middle of a continent that in the UK. + - Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11ty12 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 LBSC “Heavy Suburban” 4-6-0 Tank, I5 Class Edit made from an I1X 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whart57 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 14 hours ago, The Johnster said: The 8x4 solid baseboard format, basically the equivalent of our 6x4, is alive and well in the States as well. and is used for Lionel and American Flyer 0 gauge layouts; this is more in the sense of retro train sets than 'proper' modelling (whatever you take that to mean), but nonetheless a valid format. Oh no, the 8x4 is for serious modelling too. Model Railroader's David Popp is very much an advocate of the 8x4 as a start point for serious modelling and the "Virginian" layout Popp and his MR colleagues built just a few years ago has a lot of very high quality modelling on it. As the trackplan here shows, the 8x4 design allowed for extensions to be built on, thus the philosophy of start "small" and expand. Curves are still insane though, down to what we would call R1, but the fully worked out design was created to enable proper operation as American model railroaders understand it. Now I haven't seen a Model Railroader for about six years, so it is possible that a new editor has changed that philosophy, but eight years back a high proportion of MR layout designs were based around an 8x4 solid board. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tythatguy1312 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 9 hours ago, 11ty12 said: LBSC “Heavy Suburban” 4-6-0 Tank, I5 Class Edit made from an I1X Based on how the I1-I4 went I can only doubt this would be entirely successful 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 The 8x4 layout (I'd have said 4x8 myself) is based on a 'standard' sheet of plywood from your local hardware store or lumber yard. Buy a sheet, maybe run some stripwood along the edges to stiffen it up, and drop your oval down. You can easily fit 18" safely, and 22" can just be barely accommodated. In speaking of imaginary locos, what might an American-market English Electric 'road' loco have looked like? Tall cab behind a 37-style nose, with slightly wide hood? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) They built a lot of locos in Australia. Early ones had a full width body, but this was soon changed to a narrow hood with full width cab and just evolved on from there. Edited February 19, 2022 by BernardTPM Revised link to originals 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 17, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, AlfaZagato said: The 8x4 layout (I'd have said 4x8 myself) is based on a 'standard' sheet of plywood from your local hardware store or lumber yard. Buy a sheet, maybe run some stripwood along the edges to stiffen it up, and drop your oval down. You can easily fit 18" safely, and 22" can just be barely accommodated. In speaking of imaginary locos, what might an American-market English Electric 'road' loco have looked like? Tall cab behind a 37-style nose, with slightly wide hood? Class 20 with a taller cab. This is a Portugese 1800 class based on the class 50. And the 1400 class based on the class 20. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tythatguy1312 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 2 hours ago, AlfaZagato said: what might an American-market English Electric 'road' loco have looked like? oh I have a pretty good idea, DP-1 almost looks like a narrower New Haven EP-5 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Neth Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 3 hours ago, tythatguy1312 said: Based on how the I1-I4 went I can only doubt this would be entirely successful I disagree, the I3s were really great, they had larger fireboxes and were essentially a tank version of Billinton's B4 class. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Neth Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, tythatguy1312 said: oh I have a pretty good idea, DP-1 almost looks like a narrower New Haven EP-5 I agree, If I didn't know better, I would have said this looks like an American locomotive. It would be nice to see what this would look like if the DP-1 had knuckle couplers. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 17, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2022 25 minutes ago, Alex Neth said: I agree, If I didn't know better, I would have said this looks like an American locomotive. It would be nice to see what this would look like if the DP-1 had knuckle couplers. Some of the coaches it hauled were equipped with knuckle couplers, the Gresley stock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11ty12 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 4 hours ago, tythatguy1312 said: Based on how the I1-I4 went I can only doubt this would be entirely successful I specifically chose the I1X because it had smaller wheels than the I3, but was still as successful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted February 17, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2022 3 hours ago, PhilJ W said: Some of the coaches it hauled were equipped with knuckle couplers, the Gresley stock. Not to mention Pullmans and BR mk1s. TTBOMK there were no locomotives fitted with knuckle couplers in 1955, though of course A3s and A4s had buckeye equipped tenders, and indeed corridor tenders in some cases. with Pullman gangway/buffing plates. Bullied stock had knuckle buckeye couplers as well. Clearly, American styling had a major influence on early and 1955 play diesel appearance, with the Ivatt twins looking rather American and DP1 looking very American. OTOH the Manchester-Sheffield electrics, GW gas turbines, and the Southern Region's Bullied/Raworth electrics showed what the style might have been had there been no American influence. My personal favourites were the Southern's 10201/2/3. the progenitors of the Class 40s though the appearance was very different. Different companies, and BR themselves, developed house styles, with EE featuring relatively squared off noses, Brush (along with BRCW) the '47 look', and the sad-eyed Swindon designed Warships and Westerns. Production Deltics (and DP2) were toned down a bit from the overtly American look of DP1. There was a family look to BRCW's type 2s and 3s and the Derby type 2s as well, and North British, the source of the Swindon sad-eyes, were very identifiable. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted February 18, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2022 12 hours ago, Alex Neth said: I agree, If I didn't know better, I would have said this looks like an American locomotive. It would be nice to see what this would look like if the DP-1 had knuckle couplers. Deltic would look really good in stainless steel, like the Burlington route's silver E5's:- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_E5 2 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 18, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18, 2022 2 hours ago, rodent279 said: Deltic would look really good in stainless steel, like the Burlington route's silver E5's:- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_E5 Corrugated sides with carriages to match perhaps? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgundy Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 20 hours ago, BernardTPM said: They built a lot of locos in Australia. Early ones had a full width body, but this was soon changed to a narrow hood with full width cab and just evolved on from there. How about something like this? Best wishes Eric 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Interesting in its own right, but why would English Electric build a loco looking like a Brush Bagnall though? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Was that a real Triang loco? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 On 17/02/2022 at 15:14, tythatguy1312 said: Based on how the I1-I4 went I can only doubt this would be entirely successful I certainly wouldn't want the job of checking and oiling the motion.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, AlfaZagato said: Was that a real Triang loco? Check to see if it has an unpowered plastic bogie at one end... Edited February 18, 2022 by rockershovel 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted February 18, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2022 5 hours ago, burgundy said: How about something like this? Best wishes Eric Got more than a whiff of the LMS twins about it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whart57 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Diesel twins appeared in Thailand too. These Davenport Bo-Bo twins were photographed at Chiang Mai heading a Bangkok "express". Amazingly some are still around albeit used singly as station pilots and shunters far out in the sticks. They're considered useful enough to have had a repaint in the new livery though 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted February 19, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, whart57 said: Diesel twins appeared in Thailand too. These Davenport Bo-Bo twins were photographed at Chiang Mai heading a Bangkok "express". Amazingly some are still around albeit used singly as station pilots and shunters far out in the sticks. They're considered useful enough to have had a repaint in the new livery though Definitely a whiff of Crompton about them! 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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