New range of Spay Paints

[micklner]

Anyone used these ??

 

http://www.ontracks.co.uk/index.php?page=product&prodID=124491&catID=1501

[Kenton]

No.

But out of interest could anyone also explain why or what circumstances would you use a black primer.

 

I've always used either grey or white am I missing something?

[Guest stuartp]

One Military modelers technique uses dark undercoats to accentuate shading/panel lines etc in the paint process.

 

Experimental use of Games Workshop Chaos Black under Railmatch bauxite (I think the grey one was painted more conventionally):

[craigwelsh]

Well its a pound cheaper than the current price for Chaos Black but it doesn't tell you how much you get in the can. Games Workshop spray is 400ml.

 

edit: Its 400ml too and has a full range http://www.thearmypainter.com/

 

Might give it a go when the current two cans of Games Workshop paint run out.

 

I always use Black Undercoat apart from very rarely needing white. Stuart's wagon shows a very good reason why.

[Kenton]

Not a smrt@rse answer but I use black primer as an undercoat for black, particularly on black locos. You can also use it on very dark colors, royal blue/midnight blue, deep maroon where it'll give a very solid undercoat and sometimes means less top coats. As a rule for the darker colours, personally I prefer a red oxide.

Thanks PMP

I had always been given to believe (but am far from being competent in matters of paint) that a contrast was required between primer and main colour so that you could see the bits missed and get a suitable number of coats to get the colour to show at its best. I therefore generally use grey for just about everything except under red/maroon and yellow.

 

I do not recall having seen black used but I can see that under bauxite it or even grey it may have a use ... thought provoking

[Guest stuartp]

The pic is a bit murky, the shading effect is more pronounced in real life. I'll see if I can get a better pic this evening. It's called 'pre-shading', a lot of military modellers spray a thin line of black over the panel lines before applying the top coat to give the detail a bit of depth. Up until that wagon I'd never bothered but it's now my standard for wagons. Apart from anything else it reduces wagon painting to a 2-stage process, any bits I've missed get covered up by the weathering !

[The Fatadder]

Interested to hear if anyone try's the yellow. Keep thinking that using a yellow primer when spraying warning yellow would make things work a lot better for me...