Cholsey & Moulsford (Change for Wallingford)

[Nick Gough]

Strips of 60 thou/1.5mm plasticard:

 

To create the buttresses and relief panelling for the shed:

This is the inside wall on the 'rail' side.

 

Planking scribed onto the surface of the cart deck:

Needs some tidying up!

[Nick Gough]

A little more progress:

 

The vertical slots at the bottom are where the drainpipes are recessed into the brickwork.

[Nick Gough]

A first trial assembly:

 

I'm happy so far. My measurement and cutting all seems to fit together!

[Tallpaul69]

20 hours ago, Nick Gough said:

A first trial assembly:

 

I'm happy so far. My measurement and cutting all seems to fit together!

Excellent progress there Nick!

As I commented earlier on Thames Lower Yard:-

I know Nick Gough is way ahead of me in buildings, I have to say his goods shed looks very good, no problem with sides bending there! 

Keep up the good work, and maybe (!) I will be able to show plans for the warehouse at Wycombe End after the holiday weekend.

Best regards

Paul

[Nick Gough]

2 hours ago, Tallpaul69 said:

Excellent progress there Nick!

As I commented earlier on Thames Lower Yard:-

I know Nick Gough is way ahead of me in buildings, I have to say his goods shed looks very good, no problem with sides bending there! 

Keep up the good work, and maybe (!) I will be able to show plans for the warehouse at Wycombe End after the holiday weekend.

Best regards

Paul

Thanks Paul.

I look forward to seeing your progress.

[Nick Gough]

After yesterday's successful dry run I decided to bite the bullet and start assembling the main shed: 

 

And the office:

 

I will let the glue dry before I go any further but I thought I would try positioning the two parts roughly where they will end up on the layout:

[Nick Gough]

Thought for Today!

 

How much detail is it worth adding to the interior of the goods shed office?

 

 

Bearing in mind;

The open end will butt up against the solid end wall of the main shed.

The outside door has no glazed panels and will be shut.

There will be another floor, just below the small top window, to create a loft space.

I'm not planning to put a light in there.

So the only viewing, and light source, will be via the two lower, end windows.

 

I need to decide whether it's worth putting in a basic representation of the public counter and furnishings or just paint the inside a dark colour and leave it at that.

[Siberian Snooper]

If put it in position on the layout, with a piece of paper folded to make the roof and stand 2 feet away from it, how much can you see?

 

 

[MrWolf]

If it helps, this is my weighbridge when part built, the door is open, but even with the camera flash you can't see much. It might be different if you lit the interior, but the light wouldn't have been great on the prototype.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 2, 2021 by MrWolf
Stupid autocorrect

[ChrisN]

The answer is, as much as you want to and have time to do. 

 

If I had time, I would fully detail all the interiors of my buildings that I have not even started on yet.  However, I have learnt there are only so many chairs and tables you can make before either you want to do something else or you go barmy.  Also, I make my buildings demountable, that is I make them so that you can take them apart floor by floor so as my youngest son, who is into war games says, they can be used as 'firing platforms'.  This means that in future, buildings will get finished on the outside, curtains put up, and onto the next building, but the option of detailing later is always there.  If that I possible with the Goods Shed I am not sure, but if the roof is removable you could always take it off and show the goods staff inside with their boxes and sacks.

 

The clincher is that grandads need to be eccentric.  "Have you seen what Grandad has in that model shed!"  

[MrWolf]

My goods shed is very modest by comparison, but it does have all the internal timber framing and goods inside.

It's up to you, whether you model the interior, I have been putting interior details in buildings on the viewing side of the tracks, (even those which have their backs to the viewer) but not towards the back of the layout.

[Nick Gough]

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions.

 

I am modelling the interior of the main shed, with all the doors open, and will likely add more details to this as I progress and in the future.

 

The inside of the office will be less accessible as construction progresses and much more difficult to see, particularly at normal viewing positions.

 

I think I will go for some basic detail even though it won't be easy to see.

[Nick Gough]

In the mean time I have continued panelling the walls inside and out:

 

The horizontal gaps above the rail entrances are for steel girders.

[Darwinian]

I have put details including a scratch built “wooden” chair in my Cwmhir goods shed office because it is lit. Even so you have to look very closely and with all layout/room lights off to see it.

If it wasn’t lit I’d just do details close to the windows and basic shapes on the walls further in.

[Nick Gough]

2 hours ago, Darwinian said:

I have put details including a scratch built “wooden” chair in my Cwmhir goods shed office because it is lit. Even so you have to look very closely and with all layout/room lights off to see it.

If it wasn’t lit I’d just do details close to the windows and basic shapes on the walls further in.

Thanks.

That sounds quite sensible.

[Nick Gough]

Preparing the first piece of brick plasticard for the interior:

[Nick Gough]

The inside brickwork fixed in place:

Also showing the doorway and hatchway to the office and the doorway to the loft above.

(a bit of plasticard dust to get rid of!)

 

Compared with the real thing:

Kindly supplied by Tim V on the first page of this thread.

 

Edited April 7, 2021 by Nick Gough

[Nick Gough]

I have also 'bricked up' the exterior of the Reading end, starting with cutting out and attaching the recessed panels:

 

Then the remaining brickwork:

 

I think the relief of the panelling looks okay although the white of the sides of the 60 thou buttresses stands out for now.

 

The small cut-outs alongside the rail entrance are for stone/concrete blocks. The top pair support the steel girder over the entrance. I'm not sure what function the lower pair serve - it may be something to do with supporting the doors?

[MrWolf]

I like how this is coming together. Your attention to the little details will really lift the finished result.

I am now pondering what those blocks were for!

[Nick Gough]

14 hours ago, MrWolf said:

I like how this is coming together. Your attention to the little details will really lift the finished result.

I am now pondering what those blocks were for!

Thanks.

it's interesting to also see these blocks at the former cart entrance for the still surviving, similar Brent goods shed in Devon:

https://www.instantstreetview.com/@50.427738,-3.834714,325.8h,-4.97p,2.43z,TVMquQIiv4mWb0SsUraG9Q

 

The two upper ones clearly used to support the girders for the canopy, but the three lower ones have no obvious purpose.

Edited April 8, 2021 by Nick Gough
Damned autocorrect changing words.

[MrWolf]

There's an identical arrangement of blocks at the similar shed at Tetbury. The canopy spans four buttresses here with the same apparently unused block in the same position. All I can think is either some kind of internal reinforcing for whatever secures the canopy bracket, Eg a big spreader plate bolted down the wall or purely ornament. That is merely conjecture though.

[Nick Gough]

Not a lot to report for the last few days.

 

Firstly I was asked how best to store the rolling stock for number 1 grandson's model railway.

First of all I got hold of a set of four cheap, plastic storage boxes from a well known discount supermarket:

 

Chop up a few old cereal boxes and hot glue gun the bits together:

 

Provides storage for up to three long coaches (or equivalent length wagons) in each:

 

Back to the goods shed - building out the plinth for the office:

 

Together with a start on the corbelling for the top of the walls:

 

 

A strip of 20 thou added to each side to begin the corbelling on the main shed:

(Not very obvious yet in the photo)

 

First interior window panel bricked:

N.B. there should really be a brick archway immediately above the window, but since it's inside, and it will get covered with some dirty whitewash, I'll forego that little detail.

 

Finally, two blanks cut out for the exterior of the side walls:

[MrWolf]

Excellent piece of work Nick. The goods shed doesn't look too bad either...

 

I do enjoy layering up the brickwork though. I have been tempted to model the ruined cottage below as a bit of a brickwork challenge, but the more I look at it, the more it looks like a leftover from the battle of Ypres!

 

 

 

 

 

[Nick Gough]

12 hours ago, MrWolf said:

Excellent piece of work Nick. The goods shed doesn't look too bad either...

 

I do enjoy layering up the brickwork though. I have been tempted to model the ruined cottage below as a bit of a brickwork challenge, but the more I look at it, the more it looks like a leftover from the battle of Ypres!

 

 

 

 

 

Modelling that brickwork certainly would be a challenge - cutting out and laying 4mm scale individual bricks?

 

Railway modeller had an article, many years ago, scratchbuilding Maiden Newton signal box, mostly from plasticard.

 

I had a go at making my own signal box, following that process, but drew the line at the author's method of replicating the brickwork - glueing hundreds of computer punched tape chads, individually to the surface of the plasticard! I think that would have driven me mad!

[MrWolf]

I've read a few of those old magazines where chads had been used for brickwork. A lot of people recommended it and one that sticks in my mind was an exhibition layout that had Staffordshire pottery kilns made that way.

I never tried it because I hadn't the faintest idea where to get the chads and it wasn't long before they were dismissed as being overscale. I remember one of the club's building a model of Bodmin completely out of plasticard and I think that the stones were individually cut. I'm not 100% certain but I think that it still exists somewhere.