RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted February 2, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2020 Hi all hope you can help looking ahead to what stock I require on my Meldon layout as in Sig below, now I’m Steam era and already have a USA tank to ply its trade. But I really like this pic. Here can’t post here due to copyright! Anyway lovely looking train with 7 wagons and a brake van. Anyone care to venture what they are? 5 dogfish as http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/57609/K4103-Heljan-Dogfish-Exclusive-Pack-of-4---BR-Civil-Engineers 2 Walrus as https://www.pufferwillies-stm.co.uk/cambrian-c65-176-oo-scale-walrus-40ton-ballast-hopper-wagon-16337-p.asp and a 25 ton brakevan? obviously I would like to know what they actually are and if my links are of the same. OO gauge layout. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I would say that you have identified the make up correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted February 2, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, Gordon A said: I would say that you have identified the make up correctly. Cheers Gordon that’s a first! now locating the most cost effective source! Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 16 hours ago, AdeMoore said: Hi all hope you can help looking ahead to what stock I require on my Meldon layout as in Sig below, now I’m Steam era and already have a USA tank to ply its trade. But I really like this pic. Here can’t post here due to copyright! Anyway lovely looking train with 7 wagons and a brake van. Anyone care to venture what they are? 5 dogfish as http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/57609/K4103-Heljan-Dogfish-Exclusive-Pack-of-4---BR-Civil-Engineers 2 Walrus as https://www.pufferwillies-stm.co.uk/cambrian-c65-176-oo-scale-walrus-40ton-ballast-hopper-wagon-16337-p.asp and a 25 ton brakevan? obviously I would like to know what they actually are and if my links are of the same. OO gauge layout. Cheers I don't think the brake van has got end platforms - so probably an LMS/BR style 'Shark' ........ or perhaps an LSWR 'New Van' ? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 30 minutes ago, Wickham Green said: I don't think the brake van has got end platforms - so probably an LMS/BR style 'Shark' ........ or perhaps an LSWR 'New Van' ? I would agree, that looks like a shark plough van, I think I can see a central vertical 'timber' on the end, which brake vans do not have. cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted February 3, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 3, 2020 10 hours ago, Wickham Green said: I don't think the brake van has got end platforms - so probably an LMS/BR style 'Shark' ........ or perhaps an LSWR 'New Van' ? 9 hours ago, Rivercider said: I would agree, that looks like a shark plough van, I think I can see a central vertical 'timber' on the end, which brake vans do not have. cheers Thanks both so I’m guessing you are referring to one of these Shark Ballast Plough ??? Again where is the most cost effective source of a 00 gauge example.. Cheers for the replies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 3 hours ago, AdeMoore said: Thanks both so I’m guessing you are referring to one of these Shark Ballast Plough ??? Again where is the most cost effective source of a 00 gauge example.. Cheers for the replies. Yes, that would be the type of wagon, though the example you have chosen is a later rare modified air-braked example with a TOPS code. Is there another version pre-TOPS in black or olive green? Possibly R6432 in black might be closer, though it is lettered for Stratford. cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 5 hours ago, AdeMoore said: Thanks both so I’m guessing you are referring to one of these Shark Ballast Plough ??? Again where is the most cost effective source of a 00 gauge example.. Cheers for the replies. Cambrian kit? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted February 4, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 4, 2020 10 hours ago, Fat Controller said: Cambrian kit? I did think of looking there, eBay usually turns up some. But I don’t think they come with wheels so end up being same sort of price as a RTR. More detailed though possibly. cheers for the comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, AdeMoore said: I did think of looking there, eBay usually turns up some. But I don’t think they come with wheels so end up being same sort of price as a RTR. More detailed though possibly. cheers for the comment. Just looked at Hatton's site; second-hand, slightly-damaged Hornby Shark - £27! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted February 5, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 5, 2020 Hi all, So looking at Cambrian kits, before I click ok and pay are these right? https://www.hamodels.net/dogfish.html https://www.hamodels.net/br-walrus-40-ton-hopper.html https://www.hamodels.net/shark.html I’ve gone here as they seem to have stock Kernow we’re about 0.90p cheaper no shark at the moment though, not that it matters as within 28days I wouldn’t be anywhere needing it! Cheers for anyone taking the time to reply. until next time. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Looking again at the photo, I'm pretty certain the nearer Walrus has plate frame bogies but the second one's not so clear and it might be a Southern Railway vehicle : a little bit of variety and also available from Cambrian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Wickham Green said: Looking again at the photo, I'm pretty certain the nearer Walrus has plate frame bogies but the second one's not so clear and it might be a Southern Railway vehicle : a little bit of variety and also available from Cambrian. Looking at the photo, the tops of the ends of the two bogie hoppers are slightly different to one another. I recollect that there had been a change in the rock being quarried at Meldon, and the SR 'tweaked' the internal slope of the hoppers to allow propper discharge. A few of the SR design went to Tyneside for the construction of the Metro in the very early 1980s, and were subsequently bought by the PTE. Others went to Grant-Lyon-Eagre of Scunthorpe. All had cast bogies. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Yes, the narrower top corner suggests a Diagram 1775 ( Cambrian C67 ). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted February 7, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2020 Cheers for those knowledgeable replies. so I’ll add https://www.hamodels.net/sr-40-ton-ballast-hopper-p116.html to make the order 5 x C12 dogfish 1 x C65 Walrus 1 x C67 Walrus 1 x C14 Shark plough. hows that? cheers all thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Only one problem .......... however many times I look at that photo, I still can't figure out where the "British Railways Diesel Locomotive Class Class 22 D6329" is hiding ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 24 minutes ago, Wickham Green said: Only one problem .......... however many times I look at that photo, I still can't figure out where the "British Railways Diesel Locomotive Class Class 22 D6329" is hiding ! 'Just beyond the gasworks', as Basil Fawlty might have said... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted February 7, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2020 Cheers both I did notice that! We just see beyond that and the cracking photo. As you didn’t mention any cock ups! From my post I assume I nailed it Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 4 hours ago, AdeMoore said: Cheers for those knowledgeable replies. so I’ll add https://www.hamodels.net/sr-40-ton-ballast-hopper-p116.html to make the order 5 x C12 dogfish 1 x C65 Walrus 1 x C67 Walrus 1 x C14 Shark plough. hows that? cheers all thanks in advance. Err, did you notice ... Quote These kits do not include wheels & bearings (Just in case) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted February 7, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2020 4 hours ago, KeithMacdonald said: Err, did you notice ... (Just in case) I did Keith ta. I’ve probably got the wheels, had a kind chap on WT send me a load FOC for postage! As he was an EM modeller and had loads of unwanted 00 wheel sets. Bearings no but I’ll see about those. cheers for the heads up all the same. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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