RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted July 8, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) Writing in 1916-17 of old locomotives stationed at York in the early 1880s, E.L. Ahrons said: "Another quaint little specimen from the same railway [Y&NM] was No. 281, a small 2-4-0 double-framed engine which originated in 1846 at the works of Messrs. Shepherd and Todd of Leeds. No. 281, which had 5 ft coupled wheels and 14 in by 20 in cylinders, being but slightly larger than a potato engine, was considered too small even by the North Eastern locomotive department for regular passenger trains. It was therefore relegated to the break-down vans and stores trains." [E.L. Ahrons, Locomotive and Train Working in the Latter Part of the Nineteenth Century Vol. 1 (Heffer, 1952, reprinted from The Railway Magazine, 1916-17) p. 54.] Ahrons expects us to have a mental picture of a potato engine, to give us a sense of scale. I lack such a picture, so would be grateful for elucidation. Edited July 9, 2020 by Compound2632 typo: I'd be grateful, not gratful. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 11 hours ago, Compound2632 said: Writing in 1916-17 of old locomotives stationed at York in the early 1880s, E.L. Ahrons said: "Another quaint little specimen from the same railway [Y&NM] was No. 281, a small 2-4-0 double-framed engine which originated in 1846 at the works of Messrs. Shepherd and Todd of Leeds. No. 281, which had 5 ft coupled wheels and 14 in by 20 in cylinders, being but slightly larger than a potato engine, was considered too small even by the North Eastern locomotive department for regular passenger trains. It was therefore relegated to the break-down vans and stores trains." [E.L. Ahrons, Locomotive and Train Working in the Latter Part of the Nineteenth Century Vol. 1 (Heffer, 1952, reprinted from The Railway Magazine, 1916-17) p. 54.] Ahrons expects us to have a mental picture of a potato engine, to give us a sense of scale. I lack such a picture, so would be gratful for elucidation. Was it the mobile stove used by nineteenth century street vendors to produce fast food jacket spuds? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) Yes, that’s what sprung to my mind too. Close relations of tar boilers and gulashkanone field kitchens, the old ones all having tall chimbleys. Wait a mo; here’s one https://asian-images.photoshelter.com/image/I0000GLpqHZ5z0xA Edited July 9, 2020 by Nearholmer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted July 9, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2020 I'd thought of potato railways, but I have the idea those were mostly after Ahrons was writing, being constructed using WD surplus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) Potato railways go back a lot earlier than that, but with horse and man power in Britain mostly. In Germany/Poland they had locomotive hauled ones, probably France too, but a bit obscure for Ahrons readers, or even the man himself, I think. Essential reading: “The potato railways of Lincolnshire” and “Feldbahnen in dienste der Landwirtschafte”. Edited July 9, 2020 by Nearholmer 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 I have a feeling that the British ones were a bit more like a small traction engine. Here's model kits of the German type. Seemingly popular with diorama makers. https://www.scalemates.com/kits/tamiya-mm203-german-field-kitchen--103874 https://www.scalemates.com/kits/tamiya-35247-feldkueche--106491 Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: I have a feeling that the British ones were a bit more like a small traction engine. They were, but I couldn’t find a picture of one. The modern ‘in the style of’ ones Have the characteristic round top, but lack the tall chimney and the firebox - presumably gas, rather than coal, fired. Whoopee! Found a really good one! https://www.alamy.com/baked-potato-seller-image262286548.html Edited July 9, 2020 by Nearholmer 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted July 9, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2020 @Nearholmer, that does look sufficiently engine-like to fit the bill! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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