RMweb Gold TravisM Posted July 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2020 As steel carrying wagons seem to be your bag at the moment, can I make a suggestion of doing a run of SNCF registered IHA bogie covered steel coil wagons? I think they would make a great addition to go with your BBA wagons and others. I hope you don’t mind me making the suggestion. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9502 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I think Waterside Wagons have announced they are making a resin kit of the IHA curtain wagon on their facebook page. Roco have done curtain wagons in various liveries albeit in HO scale... And very nice they are too 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richscylla Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Waterside have indeed announced them, but we've not seen any drawings, dates or anything else. Hopefully they come through, but even if they do it'll be a kit which many people won't choose over a RTR model. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9502 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Hi Richscylla i don’t do Facebook so a friend tipped me off regarding Waterside Wagons but there’s been no developments regarding the kits(?) and they’ve announced recently they propose another two wagons too. Jools1959 if I were Cavalex i’d take the bogie and chassis tooling from the BBA and do the BIA/BWA/BXA EWS steel hoods. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted July 16, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 16, 2020 25 minutes ago, D9502 said: Jools1959 if I were Cavalex i’d take the bogie and chassis tooling from the BBA and do the BIA/BWA/BXA EWS steel hoods. I’m only interested in IHA’s so I can backdate the Boston steel train before DB Cargo got the contract. It would be great to see 6-8 or more IHA’s behind a pair of Class 50’s or Colas Class 56’s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richscylla Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 50 minutes ago, D9502 said: Hi Richscylla i don’t do Facebook so a friend tipped me off regarding Waterside Wagons but there’s been no developments regarding the kits(?) and they’ve announced recently they propose another two wagons too. Jools1959 if I were Cavalex i’d take the bogie and chassis tooling from the BBA and do the BIA/BWA/BXA EWS steel hoods. I have messaged Waterside again today to ask if there has been any update. I'll report back here when I find out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearwood West Yard Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Tim has begun selling his IHA's and I believe they are quite popular. I don't believe he is on RMweb but I'm certain he has contact information on the Waterside Wagons facebook page which is searchable via google without a facebook account. Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richscylla Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 The Waterside kits didn't look great. No transfers available, the wrong bogies were suggested so I decided to give them a miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearwood West Yard Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 17 minutes ago, richscylla said: The Waterside kits didn't look great. No transfers available, the wrong bogies were suggested I don’t know too much about Tim’s work as I’m not associated with WW, though I am a good friend of his. All I can say is that Tim as a keen modeller has attempted to recreate the wagon and chosen the resin/silicone moulding route as production. From what I’m aware of, he runs WW in his spare time and had stated from the outset that he would be providing the wagon as a raw kit, no different to Cambrian in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bearwood West Yard said: no different to Cambrian in that respect. Cambrian supply the correct bogies. So, different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richscylla Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 I'm not having a go at Tim or WW. I'm sure what he's doing is better than what I could do. But this kit isn't for me. Like I said, the bogies suggested weren't correct and neither are the wheels. Nothing like Cambrian - they make great kits that many modellers enjoy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearwood West Yard Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Indeed, Cambrian make their own bogies however Tim has outsourced the pattern making so is only involved in the production. I don’t know if he made the master as I’m not involved. Without WW having their own bogies to offer, they can only suggest the closest alternative, right or wrong. Tim has sold out on his first batch so I can’t say whether they’re good or not, as I don’t model the areas his products are used in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43078shildoncountydurham Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 What about the long welded rail wagons “perch” Regards Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearwood West Yard Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I believe Cav has 3D printed a Perch in N, though his thread hasn’t been updated since 2016. I’ve built a Porpoise in OO and am currently in the process of finishing the stabling wagons and scratchbuilding the manipulator gantry. Dapol did announce welded rail wagons of a sort before the 2010 management change, along with MLA wagons but these never materialised. I have had the MLA on AutoCAD for a while, waiting for covid to pass so I can get some dimensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 On 15/07/2020 at 01:21, jools1959 said: As steel carrying wagons seem to be your bag at the moment, can I make a suggestion of doing a run of SNCF registered IHA bogie covered steel coil wagons? I think they would make a great addition to go with your BBA wagons and others. I hope you don’t mind me making the suggestion. Good morning Jools1959, apologies for the very late reply. We will certainly add the IHA to our list of potential future projects so thank you for your suggestion. We always appreciate suggestions and ideas. On 16/07/2020 at 21:38, D9502 said: Hi Richscylla i don’t do Facebook so a friend tipped me off regarding Waterside Wagons but there’s been no developments regarding the kits(?) and they’ve announced recently they propose another two wagons too. Jools1959 if I were Cavalex i’d take the bogie and chassis tooling from the BBA and do the BIA/BWA/BXA EWS steel hoods. D9502, the BWA and BXA will follow as they are part of the BBA family. Thanks for mentioning these wagons. On 10/02/2021 at 21:42, 43078shildoncountydurham said: What about the long welded rail wagons “perch” Regards Craig Craig, thanks for your suggestion. The LWRT is on our radar following the extensive research that Cav carried out previously for his N gauge 3D printed Perch. Thanks again to everyone for their input. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearwood West Yard Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Grimleygrid said: The LWRT is on our radar following the extensive research that Cav carried out previously for his N gauge 3D printed Perch. Interesting. I’m nearly there with my 2nd Gen LWRT in OO and I spent a long time looking for suitable rail loads. Recently found Protoloads in the USA do ribbon rail, I have some 255ft of it being imported, made from extruded styrene and approx Code 80 in size. It’s expensive stuff having spent £210 inc shipping and I’ve found no other place that manufactures it. Also, the Perch as a base opens a lot of doors given the Snow and Ice treatment trains plus many other wagons use ex-BR Perch’s as a base. Whether it be old 1st Gen LWRT’s, SITT’s or other on track plant and wagons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Talking of steel wagons , what about these .. if you wanna do any modern flows these seem essential 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted April 18, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2021 5 hours ago, rob D2 said: Talking of steel wagons , what about these .. if you wanna do any modern flows these seem essential They are IHA’s and I think they are certainly a missing link for the modern freight flow. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Woodcock Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) Hello How about the Alcan alumina PCAs. Different to all othe PCA types and never been done by any-one else. A lot of people model the WHL and they have lasted a long time on there. Just a thought, sorry for ant inconvenience caused. Cheers George Edited May 2, 2021 by George Woodcock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, George Woodcock said: Hello How about the Alcan alumina PCAs. Different to all othe PCA types and never been done by any-one else. A lot of people model the WHL and they have lasted a long time on there. Just a thought, sorry for ant inconvenience caused. Cheers George Do you mean the Metalair built new for Scottish traffic or the cement conversions for Lynemouth? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Woodcock Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Hello Either would do for me Mark but the Metalair ones would be my first choice. Cheers George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Brand new Alcan PCA working through Cardiff , probably on the Radyr trip working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) As most of the steel wagons are now available in 00 gauge , the BVA cassette wagons that work from the SMACC plant at Tinsley would be a good choice ,these wagons when built in around 1999 / 2000 carried stainless slab from Tinsley to Immingham and the cassettes were exchanged for one's bringing semi finished coil back to Tinsley , there is also a flow of slab to Seaforth although I don't know if coil was ever returned from there . The traffic is now only slab and bloom to Immingham and Seaforth , with some trains having two 20ft containers on the cassette to carry imported chrome ore back to the SMACC plant . These wagons ran with class 60 and 66 and were usually in rakes comprising of most of the fleet with spares left at Tinsley for loading , Link to the wagons https://andrewwills.smugmug.com/Wagons/B-Coded/ Edited May 2, 2021 by bazjones1711 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9502 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Count me in for the Kockum Industrie BVA steel cassette wagons... As well as carrying bloom and billet they also carried the 'Titan' containers too. A 4mm model would need to be die cast, ideally with a removable cassette. Mine are too light and don't track well around corners. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Here are a couple future project suggestions. VIX international ferry wagon, plenty of livery variations, good era spread and as modellers we would need at least two(Barrier wagon use). Or the original Flatrol MJ nuclear flask wagons. If you choose to do both bogie/brake variants it covers late steam era with the 6 axle vac brake variant through to to the early 80's in their final airbrake guise with the later 2 axle bogies. Here's hoping! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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