Jaggzuk Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 A bit of light relief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggzuk Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 A couple of views of the arch enternace 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted May 14, 2021 Author Share Posted May 14, 2021 I'm not too far out; we only had pictures of the booking hall side. Hopefully I can post some pictures of it all in place tomorrow. Many thanks for your help, those are the first pictures I've seen on the entrance. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted May 15, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) I've just got back from another day working on the layout, so here are some more pictures. This is the newly modelled area with the roof removed. Looking across the station, a view that won't be possible when the walls are in place on this side. The gap on the left has now been filled. There is more fencing to add in the foreground. This is the view looking through the entrance rom the booking hall onto the platform area. A view across the station showing how it is all beginning to blend together. I have built up the area around the portico with 2mm MDF so it is fixed in position with the passage from the booking hall matching the archway on the platform perfectly. The grey paint was still wet but I couldn't resist posing a car there. Perhaps it has been raining......... I'll surface the pavement properly next time. You may have noticed in the previous pictures that this building cut across an arch and round opening in the wall so I've covered these over which looks much better. I am going to redo the coping stones on top of the wall, that section looks awful. I had to join two sections of wall with a packing piece in between and it didin't line up perfectly at the top. A five minute job for next time. The next big job is the side walls on the far side with all the small buildings that are attached to them. Peter Edited May 15, 2021 by kirtleypete 22 24 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 On 14/05/2021 at 09:48, Michael Hodgson said: A lot of things are part of history but would be better forgotten. I grew up in the 50s but that doesn't mean I want to see the return of winkle picker shoes or brylcream. To put it into a 1970s context, there were piles of rubbish everywhere when the dustmen went on strike. I bet you are the best of the best with an airbrush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bell Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 It is really coming together Pete. A fabulous job you are doing too Cheers David 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted May 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 15, 2021 30 minutes ago, kirtleypete said: I've just got back from another day working on the layout, so here are some more pictures. Peter, This work is absolutely astonishing in its ambition and quality of the implementation. Bravo! Fabulous! Just keep it up! Can't wait to see a stream of EC pacifics and V2's pounding through. Not forgetting the rich variety of stock and locomotives on all those coastal and interregional trains. I suspect that you have seen it but BTC Films available from the BFI made a lovely film in the 1950's about York Station Master. Yet another modeller shows me why I should just pack it in! (Only kidding!) Kind regards, Richard B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 Look at the top of this page Richard! I've taken a load of still from the film, it's been invaluable. Peter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted May 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 15, 2021 This just gets better and better. Any chance a micro camera could be set up where it will not be possible to view when the walls go up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted May 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 15, 2021 Sorry Peter should have gone to the top of the page but got no further than admiring your latest pictures of your work. Kind regards, Richard B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 The idea is to have a camera on a wagon for one thing Jonathan, but I'm sure other ideas will come up as things progress. I took these picture with my phone, there's not a chance of getting a conventional camera in there. Peter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium figworthy Posted May 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 15, 2021 Wow. Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham108 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Is this going to be a private layout or is the owner's intention to exhibit - either in situ or on the road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share Posted May 16, 2021 It's a private layout built in an outbuilding; it won't be possible to exhibit it. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 2 hours ago, kirtleypete said: It's a private layout built in an outbuilding; it won't be possible to exhibit it. Peter A pity, and I have no doubt that it would be absolutely surrounded by hordes of admirers if it were able to attend any show, so thank you for allowing us to see such excellent worksmanship. I can't see a single operator running anything that size and complexity that by himself, so your client must presumably have a number of friends to help run and maintain it, though I suppose automation using something like iTrain or Train Controller must be an option. Unfortunately I can see good reasons why your client may not want its whereabouts to be generally known and I respect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggzuk Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 It is an amazing model. How you have managed to get the right look and feel, even with a cut down version is fantastic. For me you have got the roof curve spot on!! It just looks right and comparing it with current views, everything about it says York. Well done. 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share Posted May 16, 2021 My next job is the signal box... Does anyone have a picture of it looking the other way, before the modern windows were put it? A view under the canopy would be very useful too. Thanks, Peter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted May 16, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) My customer has given me this to post about how he has done the track, with more to follow: I would describe the trackwork as ‘mass produced bespoke’ if that makes any sense. The construction technique is conventional, with a couple of ‘special features’ which I have found work really well for me. The geometry was drawn up using a combination of Templot, C&L slip templates, and hand drawn where needed to allow the trackwork to flow, all taped to mounting card. The timbering is made from a combination of 0.8mm ply sleepers and, special feature 1, a few DCC concepts 1.0 mm legacy pre-etched sleepers spread along the point or slip to give rigidity and strength. These need to have a small piece of 0.5mm brass strip as packing for the rail to sit on, to keep the rail head level across both timber types. I found the A5-A9 crossing packs have the most useful combination of timber sizes and positioning of the solder pads, and I could get 4-5 turnouts worth from each. Timbering, chairs, crossing Vs (almost all 1:8 or 1:9) switch blades etc from C&L, Exactoscale, Timber Tracks (no connection, just a satisfied customer). The photos attached show a pair of single slips, a double slip and what geometrically is a single slip with switched K crossing (but has a special name which I can’t remember), of which York has many, and the latter installed on the layout. And a photo of these lined up and the south end ready for installation. Special feature 2 is the tie bar arrangement. An offcut from the DCC Concepts sprue, 0.8mm holes drilled to the right gauge and recessed on the underside (as the pins have rounded internal corners), 0.75mm brass pins inserted from the underside, and soldered to the switch blades which have had notches cut into the bottom flange. The pins heads have been flattened so as not to foul the underlay. This allows the switch blade to pivot at the tie bar, minimising pressure on the soldered joints and allowing the blade to flex under spring pressure from slow action motor or servo and sit snugly against the stock rail. The photos show this arrangement from above and below. Please forgive the wonkiness. Double slips require the holes for the two pins closest to the centreline to be slotted, so as to allow the pin to move longitudinally as well as rotate. Otherwise the mechanism jams. Peter Edited May 16, 2021 by kirtleypete 23 2 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted May 16, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2021 Second part: The Waterworks crossings were a challenge due to the wide crossing angles, around 1:3. The real crossings were constructed differently, which I wanted to replicate. The crossings over the lines into Platforms 12 and 13 where made conventionally, using DCC concepts timbers. The crossings over the Up and Down Main lines were made up of crossing Vs and Ks soldered up into units using flat bottomed rail and 0.5mm brass strip, then glued to a timber base cut from 0.8mm ply sheet, then cosmetic chairs cut from C&L pandrol clips added. Hopefully these photos tell the story. Other basics. Plain trackwork is C&L. Gauge is 16.5mm, reduced to 16.2 through crossing Vs. Trackwork is laid and ballasted at the same time, glued using cheap flexible PVA from B&Q. Each rail section has an individual dropper wire. Painted using Railmatch Track Dirt for the base colour, then weathered using a thinned mix of Precision paints weathered tarmac. Then thinned black between the rails in places where locos and stock would have stood. I’ve tended to use whatever 2mm or 4mm ballast is to hand from a variety of suppliers. It looks odd until painted and weathered. The variation grins through, breaking up the uniformity, but avoiding the look of track laid and painted in batches where I cannot remember the ‘recipe’ from one month to another. Peter 16 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted May 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2021 Thanks for relaying the detailed information from your customer, Peter. I'm sure it's of great interest to a number of folk. I guess it must have taken a fair while for all the trackwork to be made, tested and laid. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponthir28 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Just found this thread and I am in truly amazed at the quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted May 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2021 On 14/05/2021 at 09:48, Michael Hodgson said: To put it into a 1970s context, there were piles of rubbish everywhere when the dustmen went on strike. Yes, so much better these days when there is rubbish everywhere even when the dustman are working their butts off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted May 17, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2021 Thinking ahead to later in the year, the roundhouse has been sketched out and is going to fit in full sized with 24 roads! The white rectangle on the left is a two road carriage shed. I might have to get a bigger car!! Peter 29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham108 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 On 16/05/2021 at 07:31, kirtleypete said: It's a private layout built in an outbuilding; it won't be possible to exhibit it. Peter What a shame but understandable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted May 19, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2021 I've been back to do more on the layout today. The big job was to plan the outside platform with it's canopy and waiting rooms. We put a long paper in place to mark out as a template which I have brought home. I had finished the inside faces of the side walls, and left the outside faces blank for the moment. The position of everything is clearly marked now. I have also done more work to the portico area which just needs some detailing now. Peter 20 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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