KeithHC Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 That’s not an Italian job……….. Keith 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted January 3, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2022 Most of the loco and tender have been rebuilt. I had a heck of a job getting the cab square and together. It didn't help that the boiler was 1mm too short and have had to fill the gap between boiler and cab front with microstrip. A new tender front needs making as the kit one was not wide enough. I've some etched coal rails somewhere. I am going to add cab and tender handrails, brakes, sandboxes and use smaller headed handrail knobs. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted January 4, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2022 Today's jobs have been about rails. Handrails along the boiler. Handrails on the cab and tender. And coal rails. I found a tank filler cap too amongst my white metal bits and pieces 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted January 11, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2022 Modelling time has been mainly spent on providing brakes and sandboxes. All are plastic and getting the brake hangers to glue to the brass frame has been a trial. Superglue sticks every thing bar that which you want. The loco has been given a coat of Halford's etch primer and then a coat of ordinary primer. The Salters valves have been left off as they are rather crude. I'll have to see if anybody does a set. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold k22009 Posted January 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2022 10 minutes ago, Rowsley17D said: The Salters valves have been left off as they are rather crude. I'll have to see if anybody does a set. Jonathan, I bought a Markits set a while back from Brian at 247 which were rather nice, otherwise i've made them from very small brass tube and rod. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted January 11, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2022 2 hours ago, k22009 said: Jonathan, I bought a Markits set a while back from Brian at 247 which were rather nice, otherwise i've made them from very small brass tube and rod. @k22009 thanks for the info, now I know where to look, although I did think of having a go myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold k22009 Posted January 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2022 28 minutes ago, Rowsley17D said: @k22009 thanks for the info, now I know where to look, although I did think of having a go myself. I think i used .5 wire with some slivers of tube from a 4 piece albion alloys tube set. They're not perfect but fine for me. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted January 11, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, k22009 said: I think i used .5 wire with some slivers of tube from a 4 piece albion alloys tube set. They're not perfect but fine for me. They look very convincing to me. I might just have a go. Thanks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted January 16, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2022 A bit more done today with a couple of coats of Halford's matt black and a start made to applying transfers. 3048 was one of three 2Fs which were transferred from the old Midland shed at Buxton to the extended LNWR shed in 1935. While the body was off the frames being painted I tested the rolling chassis and the old Keyser motor burnt out. It looks like an order will be going into High Level Kits as two other engines need motors and gearboxes. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted January 17, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2022 Thanks to Dave @k22009 I got some Albion Alloys fine bore tubing from the Scale Model Shop and made my own Salters valves which I tried to model on those of the Bachmann 1P. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted January 17, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 17, 2022 Last pair of those I bought was from the late George Norton. I need them to repair one of my LMS 0-4-4T but.. can't find them.. I reckon as soon as I make some they will re-appear! Looks very nice though! Baz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted January 18, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2022 Thanks, Baz @Barry O. They look better painted. The "arms" are made from 0.5mm NS strip that I found in my wire box. I think they were meant for boiler bands on another kit. The order has gone in to High Level Kits for motors and gearboxes for this model, a 483 Class 4-4-0 and the Kirtley 0-4-4WT. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted February 10, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2022 Having lost out on a Kirtley 2F on eBay I bought one from Nu-Cast Partners. The tender was built first and went together quite well. The brass base plate was a tad too wide as when I tried to fit the rear panel there was a sizable gap. A quick bath in hot water unsoldered everything and I rebuilt it assembling the two side and two ends first. The base plate was filed to reduce the width and slid into place. Just awaiting Gibson plastic brake hangers to be delivered as I didn't like the WM ones supplied. Progress so far. There's a sizable gap where the coal chute should meet the front panel but this will be filled. Just buffers, brake column and hand rails to add. The loco was started but the kit part numbers and instruction numbers bear little relation to one another on occasions. The brass frames are strange in that etched hole for brake hanger supports are where a space is and frame screws covers another set! Early in the instructions it says the smokebox door can be made to open but one has to be careful using the dart which is strange as the door casting and front ring is one casting and its a Deeley door with dog fasteners! 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Rowsley17D said: Having lost out on a Kirtley 2F on eBay I bought one from Nu-Cast Partners. The tender was built first and went together quite well. The brass base plate was a tad too wide as when I tried to fit the rear panel there was a sizable gap. A quick bath in hot water unsoldered everything and I rebuilt it assembling the two side and two ends first. The base plate was filed to reduce the width and slid into place. Just awaiting Gibson plastic brake hangers to be delivered as I didn't like the WM ones supplied. Progress so far. There's a sizable gap where the coal chute should meet the front panel but this will be filled. Just buffers, brake column and hand rails to add. The loco was started but the kit part numbers and instruction numbers bear little relation to one another on occasions. The brass frames are strange in that etched hole for brake hanger supports are where a space is and frame screws covers another set! Early in the instructions it says the smokebox door can be made to open but one has to be careful using the dart which is strange as the door casting and front ring is one casting and its a Deeley door with dog fasteners! Those castings look pretty good, considering that this kit has been around for, what, 50 years? I must build the one that's in my roundtuit pile some time - that one, I know, was cast a long time ago... Enjoy the rest of the build Mark 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Asterix2012 Posted February 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, Rowsley17D said: Having lost out on a Kirtley 2F on eBay I bought one from Nu-Cast Partners. The tender was built first and went together quite well. The brass base plate was a tad too wide as when I tried to fit the rear panel there was a sizable gap. A quick bath in hot water unsoldered everything and I rebuilt it assembling the two side and two ends first. The base plate was filed to reduce the width and slid into place. Just awaiting Gibson plastic brake hangers to be delivered as I didn't like the WM ones supplied. Progress so far. There's a sizable gap where the coal chute should meet the front panel but this will be filled. Just buffers, brake column and hand rails to add. The loco was started but the kit part numbers and instruction numbers bear little relation to one another on occasions. The brass frames are strange in that etched hole for brake hanger supports are where a space is and frame screws covers another set! Early in the instructions it says the smokebox door can be made to open but one has to be careful using the dart which is strange as the door casting and front ring is one casting and its a Deeley door with dog fasteners! Sounds like the kit was updated since the instructions were written? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted February 11, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11, 2022 13 hours ago, Asterix2012 said: Sounds like the kit was updated since the instructions were written? In parts it sounds like they were for a different kit altogether. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted February 11, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) A bit done to the loco today. The boiler/firebox halves were soldered together first. I tacked the smokebox door to one half a they don't meet underneath. Ignoring the instructions, one footplate half was soldered to the cab floor part, the moveable spacer was added and the footplate front along with the other side. What all seemed square, all were soldered up. Then the boiler was fitted. There's a gap each side of the firebox which will be filled later. There's also one under the front plate. Edited February 11, 2022 by Rowsley17D Fat fingers 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted February 12, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2022 Looking a bit more like a loco now. Awaiting Markits to come up with the wheels and cranks now so it may be quite a wait by past experience - hope I am proved wrong though. The Gibson brakes have arrived so I can tackle the tender. The gaps between firebox and footplate were intentional as there were firebox support parts to go on as shown below. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted February 12, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 12, 2022 a bit mangled with age but this was built my my late father a long time ago.. I will rebuild it with a new motor and Gearbox (it has a broken Ks Mk2 motor currently) Baz 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted February 12, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2022 Not changed much has it, Baz @Barry O? That over-sized vac pipe has made my mind up not to fit the one provided! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted February 15, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2022 I've got as far as I can with the Kirtley goods without having the wheels. The motor and gearbox (High Level Kits) ae fitted and hand rails and lamp irons fitted. Vac pipes will be put on nearer to painting as I manage to bend them if fitted too early. There're 2 Craftsman Johnson 1Ps awaiting building. They seem to have gone through a number of iterations as to materials for the superstructure in their time from mainly white metal to mainly brass. The latest arrival is a Belpaire with all white metal superstructure. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Rowsley17D said: Vac pipes will be put on nearer to painting as I manage to bend them if fitted too early. Did any of these locomotives actually get vacuum brakes? I don't think that they did. Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted February 15, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, MarkC said: Did any of these locomotives actually get vacuum brakes? I don't think that they did. Mark According to photos, some did and some didn't. The one photo I have of one of Buxton's 2519 ( ex- 602) didn't. Thanks for reminding me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, Rowsley17D said: According to photos, some did and some didn't. The one photo I have of one of Buxton's 2519 ( ex- 602) didn't. Thanks for reminding me. NP - although I have to say, I don't recall ever seeing photos of vac fitted Kirtley 0-6-0s, and I'm a long time Midland fan & modeller, despite my more recent move into things North Eastern... Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted February 16, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2022 13 hours ago, MarkC said: NP - although I have to say, I don't recall ever seeing photos of vac fitted Kirtley 0-6-0s, and I'm a long time Midland fan & modeller, despite my more recent move into things North Eastern... Mark Although I am awaiting Essery and Jenkinson's Midland Locomotives Vol 4 their LMS Locomotives Vol 4 has photos of curved framed 2603, 2630 and 2818 with vac pipes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now