RENUMBERING A Bachmann WD 2-8-0

[Strathyre]

I have a War Department green Bachmann WD 2-8-0, with yellow War Department cab side and buffer beam numbers which I wish to renumber. I can't seem to locate any replacements, can anyone suggest anything that might do?

 

Thanks

 

Paul

[RexAshton]

Try Railtec. I've successfully removed Bachmann lettering by LIGHTLY rubbing with a cotton bud soaked in IPA. Take your time and try to keep within the outline of the existing lettering..

[John Isherwood]

8 hours ago, Strathyre said:

I have a War Department green Bachmann WD 2-8-0, with yellow War Department cab side and buffer beam numbers which I wish to renumber. I can't seem to locate any replacements, can anyone suggest anything that might do?

 

Thanks

 

Paul

 

Try Sheet BL161 at the Cambridge Custom Transfers website.

 

CJI.

[Tony Cane]

The livery with the 21st Army Group shields was used on engines built in early 1945 and so is not typical for the class. Perhaps the impending defeat of Germany made possible this extravagance.

More typical was the same size lettering, with no shields and the War Department arrow between W and D on the tender.

The buffer beams and buffers should be black, and not red, as on the Bachmann model. The painting diagram shows lettering as WD followed by the number.  The lettering could be 2, 4 or 6 inches tall dependin on date and location of building.

The very first lettering was only 2 inches tall, so an apparently unlettered locomotive is authentic.

 

 

[Strathyre]

thanks guys. I intend to model it as 77206, a photograph of which is in existence of it on the West Highland Line in 1944. You can't really see the cab side numbers as the loco looks filthy but the buffer beam number is pretty much visible and looks about the same dimension-wise as the ones on the Bachmann loco

 

Thanks

 

Paul

[Strathyre]

1 hour ago, Tony Cane said:

The livery with the 21st Army Group shields was used on engines built in early 1945 and so is not typical for the class. Perhaps the impending defeat of Germany made possible this extravagance.

More typical was the same size lettering, with no shields and the War Department arrow between W and D on the tender.

The buffer beams and buffers should be black, and not red, as on the Bachmann model. The painting diagram shows lettering as WD followed by the number.  The lettering could be 2, 4 or 6 inches tall dependin on date and location of building.

The very first lettering was only 2 inches tall, so an apparently unlettered locomotive is authentic.

 

 

is green the correct colour for the locos?

[Tony Cane]

Yes, the colour used is similar to two post war colour imagies of WD 2-10-0 locomotives.

Attached is a deliberately small image of one of the pictures in the Colour Rail collection, Ref WD 5.

The other is a a rather dirty 2-10-0 with the 21st Army Group Shields, Ref WD 4.

 

Edited August 31, 2021 by Tony Cane
wrong picture

[Tony Cane]

One other thing to note is that the roof of the cab was painted green, the same as the rest of the body, but would not have stayed this colour for long.

[Holby Railway]

Very slightly off topic, ive acquired a WD 2-8-0 (cant find a 2-10-0 anywhere) i'm keeping the number but changing the name, do i want 2mm / 3mm or 4mm nameplates - measurements mean nothing, this is my return to model railways after a 30 year gap, i never changed anything before (not properly) im older and wiser and just need a leg up, as im planning on changing a few identities, but this is the most important one......

its going to honour a friend (well known to most in railway circles) if all goes well then i shall reveal the name once its done.

[John Isherwood]

4 minutes ago, Holby Railway said:

Very slightly off topic, ive acquired a WD 2-8-0 (cant find a 2-10-0 anywhere) i'm keeping the number but changing the name, do i want 2mm / 3mm or 4mm nameplates - measurements mean nothing, this is my return to model railways after a 30 year gap, i never changed anything before (not properly) im older and wiser and just need a leg up, as im planning on changing a few identities, but this is the most important one......

its going to honour a friend (well known to most in railway circles) if all goes well then i shall reveal the name once its done.

 

4mm.

 

CJI.

[Holby Railway]

thank you mate

[John Isherwood]

4 minutes ago, Holby Railway said:

thank you mate

 

If you ever need to renumber WD / LMR locos or stock, I can supply the transfers - see Sheet BL161 at https://www.cctrans.org.uk/products.htm .

 

John Isherwood.

[Holby Railway]

14 minutes ago, cctransuk said:

 

If you ever need to renumber WD / LMR locos or stock, I can supply the transfers - see Sheet BL161 at https://www.cctrans.org.uk/products.htm .

 

John Isherwood.

right now im sticking with WD400 but you never know, ill get back to you