GWR P-way Huts : Door Colour and most suitable material for Roofing Felt?

[Blobrick]

Hi everyone 

 

I m currently building a Rail Model GWR P-way hut in 7mm. I am having a little difficulty in identifying the correct colour for the cabin door. Some photos  l ve seen (mostly models) show the door finished in Brown, whilst others show varying colours from Green to Black.  Does anyone know if these doors came under the GWR standard paint scheme, or was it a case of using what what handy at the time?

 

One other quick question, most of these types of structure were finished with a Felt type  roof, can anyone recommend a suitable covering to represent Felt in 7mm scale please?

 

Many thanks in advance

 

Bob C

 

 

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[steve1]

Roofing felt - Plain toilet paper attached with flooded MEK (or similar) and painted dark grey/ black. Alternati, I have used black wet and dry abrasive paper.

 

steve

[Michael Hodgson]

I use sandpaper for felt rooves and quick coat of matt green or black paint.  Cut into strips the proper width and overlap .. I suppose you could even have it peeling off for a dilapidated shed, and matchsticks would be a good representation of tatty battens.

[Tim V]

Door colour - interesting question. It is not good practice to follow what other modellers have done. I searched through my pictures, here are a couple taken in 1976 of a non restored example. Note that it looks like felt has been applied over the door.

[Blobrick]

3 hours ago, steve1 said:

Roofing felt - Plain toilet paper attached with flooded MEK (or similar) and painted dark grey/ black. Alternati, I have used black wet and dry abrasive paper.

 

steve

 

Hi Steve

 

 Thanks for that, l had wondered about using fine wet & dry. Its an option if l can workout how to fold it over crisply at the corners

 

 

Cheers

 

Bob C

[TheQ]

As far as I know, p way nuts were painted in creosote, which may show brown or black.. just like granddad's sheds.... Who was a ganger....

You can see from the above photo from Tim, that they felted that door.. I suspect that shed had the felt / outer battens were well soaked in creosote..

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[Graham456]

16 minutes ago, Blobrick said:

 

Hi Steve

 

 Thanks for that, l had wondered about using fine wet & dry. Its an option if l can workout how to fold it over crisply at the corners

Cheers

Bob C

Please don't use wet and dry no matter how fine a grade,roofing felt is far to fine for the lumps to scale down enough whilst i haven't tried it the toilet paper but to me this sounds like a better bet to repasent roofing FELT !

notice it's called roofing felt not roofing gravel

[Blobrick]

3 hours ago, Tim V said:

Door colour - interesting question. It is not good practice to follow what other modellers have done. I searched through my pictures, here are a couple taken in 1976 of a non restored example. Note that it looks like felt has been applied over the door.

 

 

Hi Tim

 

Thanks for attaching the above images. Yet more variation on a theme. The door on the kit l m building has a planked door, so a little more work required if that's a look l want. I suppose it would sort out my colour issue though !

[Hal Nail]

4 hours ago, Graham456 said:

Please don't use wet and dry no matter how fine a grade

2000 grade wet and dry is considerably smoother than toilet paper! 

[Michael Hodgson]

1 hour ago, Hal Nail said:

2000 grade wet and dry is considerably smoother than toilet paper! 

Maybe, but I still wouldn't use it to wipe my posterior.

[The Stationmaster]

14 hours ago, TheQ said:

As far as I know, p way nuts were painted in creosote, which may show brown or black.. just like granddad's sheds.... Who was a ganger....

You can see from the above photo from Tim, that they felted that door.. I suspect that shed had the felt / outer battens were well soaked in creosote..

Judging by their outside appearance the ones built from timber were treated with tar/bitumen because they were far too back to have been done with creosote. (in fact to get a black finish with creosoyete you need to mix it with tar based substance.  as the GWr used tar/bitumen on some of its metal fencing it woulkdn't have been unusual to use the same stuff on the older style of timber huts.

 

The sectional Cathays (where they were made) huts were originally delivered in wood preserver but most seem to have ended up being painted but they were of course 'children of a much later generation'.  

[Hal Nail]

10 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said:

Maybe, but I still wouldn't use it to wipe my posterior.

On that note, the rough side of that greaseproof stuff we* had at school might work as a felt roof. Or preparing a surface for that matter.

 

*I'm assuming there are no nippers reading.

[Michael Hodgson]

1 hour ago, Hal Nail said:

On that note, the rough side of that greaseproof stuff we* had at school might work as a felt roof. Or preparing a surface for that matter.

 

*I'm assuming there are no nippers reading.

I suspect it wouldn't take paint well

[lyneux]

+1 here for wet and dry. Not sure what that previous comment was about it not scaling. Just pick the right grade to represent the particle size for your scale and off you go.

 

Guy

[Blobrick]

Thanks to everyone who contributed, I think l m going to try the tissue paper method, first and see how it goes

 

Cheers 

 

Bob C