Fang Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I'm in need of a tunnel for my railway to disappear into. It is going to be a 1930's era quarry, and I'm thinking of a bridge to carry the access road to the quarry over the railway, which would be in a cutting. I'm trying to find some photos of either small tunnels or bridges for such purpose, being 1930's based obviously lorries would have been quite small, and I'm guessing that being on an industrial line in a quarry it would not be to the same standard as other structures on the main rail network. It is for a standard gauge track, had it been for narrow gauge a piece of concrete pipe buried in the ground would have sufficed Many thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikcdab Posted November 8, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) Have a look at Everard Junction latest video on YouTube. He did just this, shows you how to build a bridge for scenic break. https://youtu.be/9LWGSWavKus Edited November 8, 2021 by ikcdab Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Burnham Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) Very characteristic of Kent cement works railways, where as chalk nearer the works was used up, new pits were dug and linked to the old ones by tunnels under roads and other stuff that had to be left Edited November 9, 2021 by Tom Burnham Word added by auto complete removed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Also in Kent, Golgotha Tunnel on the E.K.L.R. is very characterful : designed for double track but only excavated to track level for one ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted November 10, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2021 On 08/11/2021 at 21:35, Fang said: I'm guessing that being on an industrial line in a quarry it would not be to the same standard as other structures on the main rail network. Don't underestimate such things: Bridge carrying the Mounsorrel Quarry lines over the river Soar, Leicestershire, built 1860. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy_anorak59 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) As inpiration, how about a bridge along the lines of the one over the Lever Brothers (Port Sunlight) internal railway at Bromborough, Wirral? Built in the '20s, I believe, and carries a two lane road over. I took the photo in 1987. Edited April 8, 2022 by billy_anorak59 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) Here you are: This archetypal image of Thomas was drawn from a photo of an E2 tank on the branch that ran from Hassocks station yard to a sand quarry SW of the village. If I can find a copy of the photo on-line, I’ll link to it. Here we are, I’ve flipped the image to match what the artist did. The ‘tunnel’ is actually a bridge. Ive never been able to discover whether the branch was owned/built by the LBSCR or whoever owned the quarry, but it certainly connected like a private siding, so I think the latter. Heres a photo of it long-abandoned, which calls it a tunnel ……. so, it was either s very long bridge, or a very short tunnel! Edited November 12, 2021 by Nearholmer 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 16 hours ago, Nearholmer said: I've never been able to discover whether the branch was owned/built by the LBSCR or whoever owned the quarry, but it certainly connected like a private siding, so I think the latter. According to the Goods Working Book, this was Hudson's siding - On the up side of line at Hassocks, leading from Goods Yard, and extends for a distance of about ½ mile west of main line. Shunted by the Goods Shunting Pilot, and averaging 6 loaded wagons outbound every day. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 16 hours ago, Nearholmer said: Here you are: This archetypal image of Thomas was drawn from a photo of an E2 tank on the branch that ran from Hassocks station yard to a sand quarry SW of the village. If I can find a copy of the photo on-line, I’ll link to it. Here we are, I’ve flipped the image to match what the artist did. The ‘tunnel’ is actually a bridge. Ive never been able to discover whether the branch was owned/built by the LBSCR or whoever owned the quarry, but it certainly connected like a private siding, so I think the latter. Heres a photo of it long-abandoned, which calls it a tunnel ……. so, it was either s very long bridge, or a very short tunnel! A link to the above location at Hassocks, pages 13 -15.... http://sias.pastfinder.org.uk/sias_news/SIAS-NEWS_137.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Nick Holliday said: According to the Goods Working Book, this was Hudson's siding - Yes, Hudson owned the sand quarry, and I think by deduction the branch/siding, making it a genuine “industrial”, even if shunted by a main-line loco. The way it was laid-out at the station, I wonder whether it might have been horse-worked originally. Many years ago, when I worked on BR(S), I had access to the old “Siding Agreements”, which are probably somewhere in an archive by now. They showed who owned what, who had paid for the original connection, and whether the owner had sub-leased the siding to someone else, which was quite common it seems. Some, but not all made clear the operating arrangements, but they were better described in Sectional Appendices. I wished I’d looked this one up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted November 13, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 13, 2021 Here is the NCB shed at Bargoed with a tunnel through the embankment carrying the Brecon & Merthyr. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted November 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 14, 2021 Whatley Quarry has a tunnel. There was also a tunnel on the line to Fowey from St Blazey. This is now used for china clay lorries rather than trains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted November 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 14, 2021 And there was the famous "Big Arch" which cut through the embankment of the GWR branch to Abersychan & Talywain By Gordon Edgar By John Wiltshire C/O Peter Brabham 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted November 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 14, 2021 The East side of Milford Haven docks and the branch to Newton Noyes Naval Depot, were accessed from a connection just outside the station and which almost immediately passed through an unlined tunnel. GWR/BR locos didn't pass through this as it was within the Dock Co. boundary. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fang Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 Interesting photos, thanks for those. It looks like more of a proper road bridge would actually be suitable Many thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted November 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 15, 2021 The Hepworth iron works above Hazlehead off the GCR Woodhead route was served by a branchline across the moors which included quite a long (450 yards) tunnel. This montage shows maps and photos though not of the tunnel. One of the Fox/King Industrial Steam Albums (no.2 I think) includes a photo of the tunnel mouth under the moor. I visited the works in the 1990s but the branch was long gone. IRS will have information on this line. Dava 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted November 16, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2021 Here is a photo of the tunnel on the Hepworth branch from Hazlehead. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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