County Tank conversion in 4mm?

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Hi all,

 

Just a thought, inspired by some of the backdating/conversions of ready-to-run GWR locos posted on here. What do people think about a similar "bitsa" approach to making a 2221 County Tank? Hornby recently modified their 38xx County to loco drive, so superficially at least it wouldn't be hard to create a tank version. The tricky bit, as I see it, is that the Tank had the No2 boiler rather than the No4 of the tender locomotive.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Will

[JimC]

2230 was built with a Std 4 boiler, but only ran like that from Oct 1906 to Jan 1907. You'd think an Airfix/Dapol 61xx body wouldn't be a mile away, but I've overlaid a 61 drawing on a 2221 drawing for you here, and the differences do add up. I've lined up the boilers - if you line up the footplate the bunker and cab match better, but the 4-4-2 boiler is pitched just over 6in higher which would rather notice, especially as the tanks on the 4-4-2 are lower and longer. Still, for all its deficiencies the Dapol kit isn't that expensive, and one could butcher a few...  

 

 

 

Edited April 3, 2022 by JimC
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[hayfield]

I have had this chassis lying about for several years

 

 

 

Initially thought it was a GNR/LNER Atlantic chassis of a Southern 4-4-2 but when I checked it was the wrong wheelbase. On checking its an early style chassis for the GWR County tank, I found some cylinders in the spares box, so my thoughts turned to kit bashing an Airfix/Dapol Prairie tank kit. Then I remembered I bought a part built Alan Gibson county tank kit and my enthusiasm waned. Still a few bits missing but if I looked hard enough I could find most  

Edited September 7, 2022 by hayfield

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18 hours ago, JimC said:

2230 was built with a Std 4 boiler, but only ran like that from Oct 1906 to Jan 1907. You'd think an Airfix/Dapol 61xx body wouldn't be a mile away, but I've overlaid a 61 drawing on a 2221 drawing for you here, and the differences do add up. I've lined up the boilers - if you line up the footplate the bunker and cab match better, but the 4-4-2 boiler is pitched just over 6in higher which would rather notice, especially as the tanks on the 4-4-2 are lower and longer. Still, for all its deficiencies the Dapol kit isn't that expensive, and one could butcher a few...  

 

 

 

Hi Jim,

 

Dapol butchery was where my mind was going too, so thanks so much for taking the time to overlay the drawings, it's very insightful. 1906/7 is a bit before my modelling time period, but I suppose it would give me an excuse to build a set of Ratio/Shirescenes 4-wheel City stock for it to pull!

 

Will

[Ian G]

I think Crownline did a conversion kit a few years ago

 

Ian G

[mozzer models]

heres one i built from the Dean sidings kit

100_6562 by brian mosby, on Flickr

 

the build is here on page 18

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/topic/14655-mozzers-new-work-bench-4mm-that-welsh-brake-van-building-a-aa24/page/18/

[hayfield]

On 08/02/2022 at 16:24, hayfield said:

I have had this chassis lying about for several years

 

 

 

Initially thought it was a GNR/LNER Atlantic chassis of a Southern 4-4-2 but when I checked it was the wrong wheelbase. On checking its an early style chassis for the GWR County tank, I found some cylinders in the spares box, so my thoughts turned to kit bashing an Airfix/Dapol Prairie tank kit. Then I remembered I bought a part built Alan Gibson county tank kit and my enthusiasm waned. Still a few bits missing but if I looked hard enough I could find most  

 

 

I have reapplied the photos and found a whitemetal cylinder block, with the amount of kits I have to build there is no way I will ever contemplate doing a conversion when I have a Gibson kit to finish. I don't think its scratch built or a Jamieson product, perhaps designed for an early Romford motor, perhaps a conversion chassis for the Kitmaster Prairie ?

 

I think its time to let things I have like this go as it may well encourage someone else to do a bit of kit bashing. It came in a lot of other items and as I said I initially thought it was a Great Northern  Atlantic (I have a K's kit with a dodgy chassis) and its been on the "it may come in useful" shelf for far too long