Hobby Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Sorry, Andy, no. We're over in Germany later in the month but not around Detmold. While we are there I may see if I can find a model shop and ask about it. I assume we should get the models VAT free and have to declare them at our customs on return, but perhaps someone will know the procedure and advise me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekoboy Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) We visit relatives in Germany 2-3 times a year or more and after Brexit we were concerned about customs limits, but if you check the relevant gov.uk website you will see that the regulations are fairly generous especially with alcohol (!) - but general purchases are £390 per person (which you can convert to Euros - official rate £1=€1.17 on HMG's website, so approx. €455!). That limit, especially if travelling with a partner, gives some scope for shopping. Edited September 10, 2022 by rekoboy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium andythenorth Posted September 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) You can bring in goods up to £390 with no declaration: https://www.gov.uk/bringing-goods-into-uk-personal-use The import duties on packages might be listed on gov.uk also actually I'm going to look. It might be scuttlebutt but I've seen people running into VAT shenanigans as well, either getting charged VAT twice (EU and UK) or VAT exempt on the EU sale, but then should be declaring it for UK VAT, which is paperwork Edited September 10, 2022 by andythenorth 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 May see if I can find some secondhand H0e or TT then! ;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
britishcolumbian Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 It's been a while since I bought from MSL but IIRC German VAT gets removed before I pay by virtue of having a non-EU delivery address, so at least that shouldn't be an issue... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium NCB Posted September 28, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 28, 2022 I gather it was said at the recent Stafford show that a major UK manufacturer would shortly be announcing TT-120 rolling stock.We live in hope. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific231G Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 On 10/09/2022 at 15:42, Hobby said: May see if I can find some secondhand H0e or TT then! ;) The 009 Society's sales team have quite a lot of secondhand H0e and some H0m (mostly Bemo). Online sales are members' only but, if you're not one, you can still browse what's available and decide it it's worth joining to access sales. The stand does also appear at some specialist NG shows. https://009society.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 I've been a member since the late 80s, David, and help out behind the s/h stall! There's currently a little H0e and very little H0m, nothing like what there's been in the past, and no TT at all. In fact they've now banned taking any more H0m (or 12mm gauge) as it takes too long to sell, so I'd get it while you can, nothing for me, though. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific231G Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) On 30/09/2022 at 08:05, Hobby said: I've been a member since the late 80s, David, and help out behind the s/h stall! There's currently a little H0e and very little H0m, nothing like what there's been in the past, and no TT at all. In fact they've now banned taking any more H0m (or 12mm gauge) as it takes too long to sell, so I'd get it while you can, nothing for me, though. Thanks for that update Hobby. I thought I saw quite a lot of both at Steventon (where my local 009 Soc. group had a layout) but I wasn't buying so may well have been mistaken. I hope the no H0m policy isn't in any way reflective of a tendency to narrow (no pun intended) the Society's remit to NG modelling on 9mm gauge track rather than the more inclusive "small scale narrrow gauge modelling" . We had that battle at 009 Society AGMs back in the mid1980s when members modelling in 00n3 and H0m were feeling increasingly sidelined. It can too easily be a chicken and egg situation where the lack of 12mm gauge material leads people modelling metre or three foot gauge prototypes to use a far too narrow gauge (been there and done that!) Hopefully a greater use of TT will also make things easier for those using 12mm gauge for NG modelling. That did happen to some extent after the collapse of communism when companies like Tillig emerged into the Western European market and H0m stopped being so focussed just on Swiss prototypes. Edited October 5, 2022 by Pacific231G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Keith Addenbrooke Posted October 5, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Pacific231G said: Thanks for that update Hobby. I thought I saw quite a lot of both at Steventon (where my local 009 Soc. group had a layout) but I wasn't buying so may well have been mistaken. I hope the no H0m policy isn't in any way reflective of a tendency to narrow (no pun intended) the Society's remit to NG modelling on 9mm gauge track rather than the more inclusive "small scale narrrow gauge modelling" . We had that battle at 009 Society AGMs back in the mid1980s when members modelling in 00n3 and H0m were feeling increasingly sidelined. It can too easily be a chicken and egg situation where the lack of 12mm gauge material leads people modelling metre or three foot gauge prototypes to use a far too narrow gauge (been there and done that!) Hopefully a greater use of TT will also make things easier for those using 12mm gauge for NG modelling. That did happen to some extent after the collapse of communism when companies like Tillig emerged into the Western European market and H0m stopped being so focussed just on Swiss prototypes. Just to reassure, I believe the current request for 009 Society members not to send more H0m to the Sales Team for onward sale is a practical stock management decision, as @Hobby says - when offered for resale it tends to be quite slow-moving (as evidenced by the present selection of H0m, that has been trying to tempt me for a good few months now). The current Society Sales Officer models with both 12mm and 9mm gauges, and has had articles showing parallel builds in the 009 Society News quite recently. In terms of relevance to TT:120, the Continental Auhagen building kits I’ve bought came from the 009 Society Shop, and I saw a 12mm gauge flat wagon for sale in the Members Shop recently with couplings that look like BerlinerBahn or Piko TT couplers to me. Hope that helps, Keith. Edited October 5, 2022 by Keith Addenbrooke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Well it's Hornby!! https://uk.Hornby.com/hornbytt120 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Well, that’s certainly a huge and welcome surprise! I well remember a few years ago when SK mentioned about TT 1:120 and how if it ever came back to the UK, it ought to be this international scale rather than the UK only 3mm/ft - who would ever have guessed, even after the Peco announcement, that Hornby had been secretly working on this for the past few years? I had hoped but never really dared dream that this might happen. I’m very impressed that they are doing so many steam locos too, including a forthcoming 9F, surely that will be a challenge? Bravo, Hornby! 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Keith Addenbrooke Posted October 10, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2022 Some more information on the Hornby Launch: @Hobby has posted the link to the Hornby website above. Within the Hornby Website you can find, as part of their proposals, a Hornby TT:120 'Club' which is currently free to join (for those joining by 31st Jan 2023): Hornby TT:120 Club This appears to offer discounts for orders placed through the Hornby Website (which it is explained is the only distribution channel being offered for this range). A number of products are now available for order, and some (track pieces) are in stock as of today - launch day 10th October 2020: Hornby TT:120 Range Also, from the World of Railways* Website: Hornby enters TT market Interview, Simon Kohler on launch of Hornby TT (*World of Railways is part of the parent company for RMweb) Hope this also helps, Keith. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Well, I joined the Hornby TT1:120 club whilst watching (listening!) the video. It’s certainly worth the joining fee! I haven’t ordered anything yet as I’d better sell some stuff first but I will. Cheers, John 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 There's some massive frothing happening on the Hornby thread but I certainly feel a boxfile coming on... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
estarriol Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 The Hornby stuff looks, odd. Doing 2 LNER engines but no matching carriages, and otyer than an 08, no small engines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Express engines that will sell and some Mk1s to go behind them. From what I've seen mk1s will go behind an A3 or 4 in virtually any livery. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, estarriol said: The Hornby stuff looks, odd. Doing 2 LNER engines but no matching carriages, and otyer than an 08, no small engines. Phase 4: J94 0-6-0T and 57XX 0-6-0PT Future: “several small tank locomotives” See: https://uk.Hornby.com/hornbytt120/future 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 They are basically promising everything in OO in TT, it's ambitious I'll say that. I still reckon that the expectation should be more RailRoad than hi fidelity if these locos are designed to be handled. This has all the hallmarks of Dave Jones who promised 'everything' in N that time from Dapol before reality bit hard, though to be fair Hornby potentially have a better banking facility to call upon. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 27 minutes ago, Hobby said: Express engines that will sell and some Mk1s to go behind them. From what I've seen mk1s will go behind an A3 or 4 in virtually any livery. Apart from LNER..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 A3s and 4s have been painted in LNER liveries long after 1947 and hauled them so Mk1s are fine! ;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold D9020 Nimbus Posted October 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2022 There are Gresley coaches forthcoming. The initial range seems to be aimed at the train set market, though, with rather restricted ranges of coaches so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
britishcolumbian Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 To me it's no surprise that it's Hornby - they're already involved in 1:120 under the Arnold name. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
britishcolumbian Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 However I want to mention that I tried to join the club but seems it's only open to UK addresses... :( 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Moxy Posted October 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, britishcolumbian said: However I want to mention that I tried to join the club but seems it's only open to UK addresses... :( Someone on the Hornby forum had a similar experience: "I was able to get a ROW free membership. I started to register and realized it was UK only. When I removed that from my cart, it came up with other similar items, which had the ROW free club membership." It seems the Hornby site can recognise non UK addresses. Hope this helps 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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