drgj Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 (edited) I have a blue class 47 D1957 from which I would like to remove the double arrows because they are a bit large, I think. Does Lima printing come off in some way without damaging the paint? Thanks Dave Edited May 2, 2023 by drgj Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Dab of white spirit on a cotton bud. Make sure the cotton bud is nearly dry by blotting on kitchen roll, before gently rubbing over the arrows. Use a clean dry bud after to tidy up and take off any traces of white spirit. Turps should also do the trick, also any thinner for enamel paint , but NOT cellulose. Go very gently with a minimum of fluid. John. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgj Posted August 16, 2022 Author Share Posted August 16, 2022 Thanks John. Will give that a go. dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted August 16, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 16, 2022 If that's a loco with two arrows per side they were quite a bit bigger than the later standard ones. I've done the conversion the opposite way on a Bachmann 47 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted August 16, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) Be aware the act of removing them will polish the area so you'll probably need to varnish afterwards. Edited August 16, 2022 by Hal Nail typo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 A trick I used back in the day with lima locos was to put some sellotape over the printing. Push it down lift it back up and the printed numbers and logos would lift off. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 22 hours ago, drgj said: I have a blue class 47 D1957 from which I would like to remove the double arrows because they are a bit large, I think. Does Lima printing come off in some way without damaging the paint? Thanks Dave Be very careful, if I remember correctly the paint is really thin and you'll be seeing the yellow bodyshell in no time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgj Posted August 16, 2022 Author Share Posted August 16, 2022 Thanks for the new replies. I had a look at photos of the locos that came out in blue livery when new and the double arrows are big but the Lima ones look even bigger but I may be wrong. Will be careful of the thin paint and will try the sellotape trick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 The arrows on Lima's D1957 were definitely too big. A shame as to date this has been the only RTR model of one of these nine early blue 47s (although if Trix had produced their sort-of-OO model In the late 1960s the blue one would have been D1959). In the past I successfully used Modelstrip paste to completely remove the large logos and numbers from a 1980-vintage Lima Class 50 50043 whilst leaving the paint unmarked. A few months ago I tried the same on a Lima Class 73 73105 (I want to do E6018 with its wrap-around yellow ends) and the numbers went but the Modelstrip didn't touch the logos at all. The printing method for the logos had changed at some point in the 1980s. I believe @GD is correct regarding the thinness of Lima paint (which was apparently carried over to Vitrains) so I think I'm going to have to get the paint out. I had hoped to avoid that 🙄! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgj Posted August 17, 2022 Author Share Posted August 17, 2022 Thanks for that. The yellow ends don't extend far enough down the body side either and Lima filled the space between the this and the doors with the logos. I will repaint the ends by airbrush but didn't want to do a full repaint because the numbers are ok. Applying individual number digits is my least favourite thing and I am too thrifty to buy the Fox 47 sheet just for one loco. I have done a lima class 47 before. Here is a pic of the one I did before but this was a full re spray. I have posted this before but I think the pictures were lost during the big crash. I flush glazed the front windscreens by cutting out the original Lima ones and fixing them flush. I didn't bother with the side windows. I added handrails, etc. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgj Posted May 2, 2023 Author Share Posted May 2, 2023 I meant to post a pic of my Lima D1957 with the new yellow paint and smaller arrows. Here it is. I extended the yellow warning panel further round the sides and the smaller double arrows fit in properly. i also the front glazing from the moulding and moved them forward for a more flush glazed look like in the other 47 pic earlier in the thread. Dave 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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