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0 gauge Contenital style turnout build


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I have been asked to build some 0 gauge hand built track, based in the style of continental practice, but using parts  compatible with either Peco or C&L 0 gauge flexitrack. I have been given some plans and a few general requests about the design

 

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This is one of the plans from a company based in Liechtenstein. Designed for flatbottom track system, using 10" wide timbers. Each turnout to be built on 5mm foam board with servo's fitted

 

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The brief was for code 131 bullhead rail, plastic timbers and chairs, the main visual feature is the double timbers, also a form of equalised timbering

 

The plan was stuck to the foamboard with Evo-Stik spray impact glue, allowed to dry fully, the plastic timbers stuck to the board with no nails.

As for mounting the servo, I had a chat with the owner of a model shop for remote control models and have a couple of ideas, but that's for later

 

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Common crossing built in the normal way but using 1mm thick strip, I also soldered the Vees together with 225 degree solder, then used a normal solder for attaching the wing rails

 

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Stock rails and the common crossing have had the chairs fitted, but not stuck down yet

 

As I said its in the style of rather than a direct scale model, and certainly the double timbers are very noticeable

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The first turnout is nearly finished, so I started laying the timbers for a left hand turnout, also my mind was on the double slip, or more to the point its timbering.

 

The slip again was from a continental plan using 10" wide timbering, where as I am using 12" wide timbering. Where possible 8mm spacing between the timbers is the design brief, this was possible in the centre and two outer sections, but the two switch sections had to be reduced to 7mm spacings, I expected the slip to use up quite a bit of timbering, but I have quite a lot of smaller timbers smaller timbers left over, which is not an issue as usually its the longer ones which are left over.

 

I must also turn my thoughts to fitting the servos

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The first of the smaller radii turnouts nearly finished and the first turnout I designed to mimic contenital practice

 

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Tested with both a whitemetal kit (Not Springside) with Slaters wheels and a Dapol Terrier

 

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The next job is to understand then fit these servos, not a clue with the French text but the photos are easy enough to understand. Is just I am a bit clueless about programming them  

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22 minutes ago, Stephen Freeman said:

There are several MERG units - servo control boards, which one do you have?  Apart from the Megapoints one, you will probably need to use a setting box or windows PC, there are some simple ones which don't though.

 

Stephen

 

I was given these a few weeks back and had a quick demonstration, I have someone I can call to go through it again, I am too old to take it all in at once, especially with electrics

 

 The programmer is a Servoset 2

The control unit is a MERG servo 4 rev f

 

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I am familiar with the servo units  I take it these are assembled? You will either need 12vdc or 16vac depending on which connections you use. The ac input is on the right if the servo connections are. The dc are next to the control terminals. You will probably need a USB to serial cable to connect the unit to the setting box ie servoset or pc running the relevant program  though in the latest incarnations I think you can connect to the servoset by means of some of the pins on the board. I normally use a  windows pc running SEMA4 with my own slightly modified firmware which gives a simulated bounce for signals with slight pause to give the impression of a pause ìn the pull. So don't use a servoset just a windows pc

 

To connect a servo, the orange wire is inboard (the control wire), brown goes to the outside pin (common), the red one goes to the centre pin (positive).

 

Having said that I usually connect 12vdc to the right hand terminals (near the servo pins) and so long as it of a smooth regulated nature, works for me.

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I have built the first relay holder and a test board, the board is 5mm foam board ( I am building the turnouts and crossings on this material) and in my opinion is far too weak to hold the screw fixings as the plan is to pre fix the relays to the foam board and cut a hole in the baseboard for the relay to fit through

 

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I have glued (With NoNails) a piece of 5mm ply where the servo will be fitted, hopefully the area of the plate will be sufficient to hold the relay securely

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I have started to build the double slip, the timbers have been down for a few weeks but I have shied away from building the slip whilst building the first four turnouts

 

My normal method is to fit the common crossings first, then build the centre parts of the slips. The switch blades will be hinged  and I am slightly concerned about the short switch blades. But that's for later

 

 

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Sometime since I updated this thread the latest project is a double outside slip

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Two single outside slip plans were spliced together, as C&L only sell single outside slip plans

 

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Timbering was stuck down again not to the plan which is to a British style but trying to represent a Continental style

 

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The triple common crossings are formed

 

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Then built as a sub assembly

 

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Then tested, the stock rails are just for testing

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31 minutes ago, Wayne Kinney said:

Great work! Finetrax version, perhaps 😏?

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It would be a lot easier in some ways for you, firstly they should be 10" timbers, I have no idea what continental bullhead chairs look like, but in 4mm scale only the very well informed would know. However if you are thinking about outside slips, there are quite a lot of rail parts, for a single outside slip you need to design a twin common crossing with differing crossing angles

 

Perhaps a three way would push the boundaries in a similar way but would be a better seller

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What rail and chairs are you using? I though most continental rail was flat bottom. I know the French used bullhead for a while.

 

For DB/DR track, there was a series of point plans in the German magazine Modellbahn Eisenbahn, maybe 15 years ago. They included a plan of a turnout built on pressed steel sleepers. Now that would be a challenge. :)

 

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As I have said all along its in the style of. The request was for some custom built trackwork in the style of, rather than a copy. I think there is a limited supply of appropriate track building components. 

 

From a set of plans sent to me the timbers were 10" wide but no details of chairs or rail. The request also stated code 131 bullhead rail with chairs. I have no idea of era being modelled, the plan was for a German turnout with no rail or chair/fixing detail

 

The plan was by Hassler I think Profile range. The rest is I think in German

 

Doppelte Kreuzungsweiche  (double slip switch)

1:6,6 / R=3000 mm

 

I guess 1 in 6,6 crossing angle and radius of 3m

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