RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted November 22, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2022 Fairly sharp corners at Powderham, Starcross, Langstone, past Dawlish and into Teignmouth. Fairly sure the line speed is 90 mph from St Thomas but then 75 at most from Powderham onwards. You could imagine a nice new line built in the 1930s being at least 90 mph all along and that also being the reason for the short cutoff at the start of the Powderham route. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike_Walker Posted November 22, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 22, 2022 The current maximum permitted speeds are: 100mph Alphington 195m 40c to Powderham 200m 60c 75mph Powderham to Cockwood 203m 00c 80mph Cockwood to Dawlish Warren 204m 60c 70mph Dawlish Warren to 205m 10c 75mph 205m 10c to Dawlish 206m 00c 60mph Dawlish to Parsons Tnl (W. End) 207m 55c 75mph Parsons Tnl to approaching Teignmouth 208m 45c 60mph Teignmouth to 209m 65c (just west of Shaldon bridge) 80mph 209m 65c to 210m 20c 90mph 210m 20c to 212m 60c approaching Hackney Yard There is a 60mph limit throughout for trains running "Bang Road" between Dawlish Warren and Teignmouth - that is in the the Down direction on the Up Main. The permissible speeds would have probably been lower in the steam and early diesel eras. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 I sent Dawlish Museum an email: Quote Dear Dawlish Museum I wonder if, in your collection, you still have any plans or maps for the Dawlish Avoiding Railway Line as planned by the old GWR in the 1930s? In particular, the route the line might have taken through Dawlish. Andrew Wright, a volunteer at Dawlish Museum, has kindly just replied, quoting from Peter Kay's book, and confirming that as the source of those maps above. They have the book in the museum. Quote Hi,I have taken a quick look in Peter Kays book and there is a chapter 18 pages 239 to 233 covering the Dawlish avoiding line. He also quoted one crucial item from the book. Quote Between November 1935 and April 29136 contracts were let for the sinking of exploratory boreholes for the tunnels and at Hackney. But even before the 1936 Act was passed, the GWR had decided against the Dawlish Warren route (although this had not been publicly divulged). Acknowledgements and copyright Peter Kay To paraphrase the part of the book on the section of the DAL through Dawlish:- NIMBY citizens of Dawlish raised a lot of opposition. The existing seafront line was already an eyesore and a blot on the landscape. Folk feared the DAL would ruin the old part of the town as well (parklands and meadows). Dawlish UDC initially opposed the Bill, and then got a protection clause in the Act specifying a 130 yard long viaduct in Newhay, to be made of red sandstone or similar, and a bridge over Dawlish Water. (I've now got a song by Simon and Garfunkel going through my mind) The Dawlish Gazette carried articles complaining; which incidently has been its modus operandi for decades. Not for nothing was it known to some locals as the Dawlish Guts Ache. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 6 hours ago, KeithMacdonald said: Dawlish UDC initially opposed the Bill, and then got a protection clause in the Act specifying a 130 yard long viaduct in Newhay, to be made of red sandstone or similar, and a bridge over Dawlish Water. (I've now got a song by Simon and Garfunkel going through my mind) The Dawlish Gazette carried articles complaining; which incidently has been its modus operandi for decades. Not for nothing was it known to some locals as the Dawlish Guts Ache. There's a different song comes to my mind .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvuQJNVDJYk Devon is slightly further from Westminster than Hull. Perhaps you just have to wait slightly longer ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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