Dean 8'6" Bogie Drawings

[stevel]

1 hour ago, drduncan said:

Have you looked at the Dart/MJT 6w set up? I like them because you can assemble them without solder! It would mean adjusting your prints to be without W irons (but I've successfully printed U29/20/28 6w composites with the j hangers and springs only to use etched W irons behind.

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I have looked at the MJT 6w set up, and I see they have been retooled, with some useful updates, I will give them a try. Just read the new instructions, and according to the radius chart solebar spacing won't be a problem.

[stevel]

On 13/01/2023 at 05:46, drduncan said:

@stevel Do you have your own 3d printing thread as I'd love to see more of your work. The S6 Tadpole - have you articulated the 6w chassis or is it rigid? I'm working on a load of BG fish 6w wish wagons and I've put a 3d printed cleminson style chassis under them but getting enough sideways movement is a bit of a problem.  

 

Duncan

Thread started as per your suggestion.

Thanks 

[MrWolf]

18 minutes ago, stevel said:

Thread started as per your suggestion.

Thanks 

 

Could you please put a link up here? There's a site glitch that means some of us can't access certain parts of the site except via threads they're already following.

 

If that makes sense, it certainly doesn't from this end...

[stevel]

29 minutes ago, MrWolf said:

 

Could you please put a link up here? There's a site glitch that means some of us can't access certain parts of the site except via threads they're already following.

 

If that makes sense, it certainly doesn't from this end...

 

[stevel]

On 13/01/2023 at 11:10, drduncan said:

Have you looked at the Dart/MJT 6w set up? I like them because you can assemble them without solder! It would mean adjusting your prints to be without W irons (but I've successfully printed U29/20/28 6w composites with the j hangers and springs only to use etched W irons behind.

D

I have ordered  few of the MJT 6w set up, should see them in a couple of weeks, with the 6 wheel coaches i am having no luck finding a drawing of the chassis, which shows placement of the gas cylinder etc.

Do you have any suggestions where to look, as none of my books have been of use.

[Miss Prism]

Good drawings of a few Welsh 6-wheelers among this curation from Dave Bowden:

https://djb-model-rly-articles.blogspot.com/

 

[richbrummitt]

Model railway constructor annual 1981 iirc. (I checked and I don’t)

Edited January 19, 2023 by richbrummitt
There’s no u/f drawing in it.

[stevel]

4 hours ago, richbrummitt said:

Model railway constructor annual 1981 iirc. 

fraid I don't have any of those

[richbrummitt]

7 hours ago, stevel said:

fraid I don't have any of those

It’s the annual (not any of the individual mags from that year) that has the GWR coach article in it. Should only cost a few quid for a serviceable copy. 

[Miss Prism]

IIRC, the MRC 1981 annual John Lewis article confined itself to roof profile and general body style classification. The bones of it are to be found on http://www.gwrcoaches.org.uk/index.html

 

[MrWolf]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/385294092203?

 

Plenty about.

[richbrummitt]

5 hours ago, Miss Prism said:

IIRC, the MRC 1981 annual John Lewis article confined itself to roof profile and general body style classification. The bones of it are to be found on http://www.gwrcoaches.org.uk/index.html

 

You do. I don’t. There is no u / f drawing there.
 

I don’t remember where I found the one I had.  

[Penrhos1920]

There's some excellent work here.  I've not been around for a while so I'm only just starting to catch up.  Not wanting to throw the cat among the pigeons, but you do realise that there were 2 versions of the Dean 8'6 bogie?  Up until about 1896, possibly September 1895, they appear to have had 6' springs which necessitated the outer ends of the springs being attached to the bogie frame by cast brackets attached the corner of the bogie frame.  It's possible that the changed occured when the 10' bogie was introduced.

 

By Hugh Llewelyn (edited by R Spratt), Dean 8'6 bogie on GWR Dean 45'6 Brake First Saloon No.8231, later 9055, Diagram G31, Lot 804 built at Swindon 1896.  At Blaenavon, P&BR, 09/11. Uploaded by Oxyman, CC BY-SA 2.0 <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0>, via Wikimedia Commons

 

 

 

Part of GWR drawing 10573, 52'-0" underframe, March 1893, superceded September 1895 - see the carriage shed on GWRCoaches.org.uk for the full drawing

Edited February 16, 2023 by Penrhos1920

[stevel]

3 hours ago, Penrhos1920 said:

There's some excellent work here.  I've not been around for a while so I'm only just starting to catch up.  Not wanting to throw the cat among the pigeons, but you do realise that there were 2 versions of the Dean 8'6 bogie?  Up until about 1896, possibly September 1895, they appear to have had 6' springs which necessitated the outer ends of the springs being attached to the bogie frame by cast brackets attached the corner of the bogie frame.  It's possible that the changed occured when the 10' bogie was introduced.

 

By Hugh Llewelyn (edited by R Spratt), Dean 8'6 bogie on GWR Dean 45'6 Brake First Saloon No.8231, later 9055, Diagram G31, Lot 804 built at Swindon 1896.  At Blaenavon, P&BR, 09/11. Uploaded by Oxyman, CC BY-SA 2.0 <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0>, via Wikimedia Commons

 

 

 

Part of GWR drawing 10573, 52'-0" underframe, March 1893, superceded September 1895 - see the carriage shed on GWRCoaches.org.uk for the full drawing

thanks for this it is new information to me, and very helpful as the period I model, probably had both variants.