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Great to see your work.

 

Any chance you could post images of the 1 plank single shoe brake gear?  I've yet to find a good image on which to base such a version of my 1 plank 17'6 and 18' wagons - which are the only ones I've found in the wagon stock books that have single shoe brakes (and not many of them at that). Most of the other 1 planks up to and including the 17'6 ones use double shoe brakes either 9ft or 10ft wheelbase and thanks to (I think) @Compound2632 I found a wooden double show drawing which I stretched to make a 10ft version.

 

On my BG fish wagons I've had some success using 0.3mm brass rod for the axle tie rods which avoids the wavy 3d print issue.

 

Look forward to seeing more of your excellent work soon.

 

Regards,

 

Duncan

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3 hours ago, drduncan said:

Great to see your work.

 

Any chance you could post images of the 1 plank single shoe brake gear?  I've yet to find a good image on which to base such a version of my 1 plank 17'6 and 18' wagons - which are the only ones I've found in the wagon stock books that have single shoe brakes (and not many of them at that). Most of the other 1 planks up to and including the 17'6 ones use double shoe brakes either 9ft or 10ft wheelbase and thanks to (I think) @Compound2632 I found a wooden double show drawing which I stretched to make a 10ft version.

 

On my BG fish wagons I've had some success using 0.3mm brass rod for the axle tie rods which avoids the wavy 3d print issue.

 

Look forward to seeing more of your excellent work soon.

 

Regards,

 

Duncan

I based the single brake block wagon, on the picture from, a history of GWR goods wagons Vol1. Scanned image attached.

The axle tie rods waviness is caused by a slight horizontal warping of the wagon, as they were tight originally, But for future 6 wheelers I will be going with etched w-irons, as my experiments with a floating centre axle have not work so far.389707111_singleblockbrake.png.8618c4ca80932dd05562e46cc7736b36.png

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One of the first pieces I drew and printed was the AA16, wood framed brake wagon. This is the second attempt as the first had too many errors.

Printed in the translucent green makes it hard to see the detail, and it took more than a dozen prints, with small detail changes before I was happy with it.

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That's the first time I've started following a thread after reading the first sentence alone!

 

Sounds - and looks - an excellent project, interested to see how it develops.

 

How much of the branch are you planning to model? A Brunel viaduct 'or two' suggests that it's going to be some bleddy thing, as they say in Falmouth. Good luck!

 

 

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4 hours ago, Schooner said:

That's the first time I've started following a thread after reading the first sentence alone!

 

Sounds - and looks - an excellent project, interested to see how it develops.

 

How much of the branch are you planning to model? A Brunel viaduct 'or two' suggests that it's going to be some bleddy thing, as they say in Falmouth. Good luck!

 

 

Thanks for your interest.

I am hoping to build a wood workshop, which will have a loft above, with about 9m x 5m of space, with the intention of modelling Penryn, and Peranwell.

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I thought it may of interest, to show some of the steps, to draw in Fusion 360, and then print a model wagon. The model chosen is of the GWR 021, 4 plank with grease axle boxes.

the first stage with something that is symetrical, is to draw one quarter of the wagon.

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then the pre drawn components, in this case, the W-iron with the axle box and springs, are brought in and moved to the correct location.1796443974_O21stage3.png.76a1bc371ea39795bc7f4f66ce3475a4.png

the next component to be added is the buffer body.

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Once all the details are in place it is time to mirror the model, to get the complete wagon model.164835869_O21stage7.png.e9f23cc5a0c7864bd4152744318747ce.png

first mirror get a half wagon, and the second mirror gets the complete wagon.

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At this stage the single side brake set up can be drawn and extruded. 

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The final stage for me,  is to add on the sacrificial supports, to ensure a clean edged print.

 

 

 

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On 18/01/2023 at 00:23, stevel said:

about 9m x 5m of space, with the intention of modelling Penryn, and Peranwell.

Iiiiideal :)

 

The former was my local for a spell, looking forward to seeing it develop in model form. Much nicer than in modern form, although it can lay claim to being one of very few stations with an interesting traffic pattern!

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Here is the next stage of the process, the printing. 

 

the left hand model is the first print, using Anycubic grey without the sacrificial ribs. The print has warped along the top edges quite a bit, and some of the supports have broken away causing other issues. The middle is the same resin with the ribs, but still has some warping issues. Th right hand side model is printed using the Siraya tech mix, and has come out very clean and crisp, with no top edge warping.

All of these were printed in warmed enclosures, Both using factory settings. IMG_5900.JPG.5e0d9b747929aa33bb5b844fb8189a34.JPG

here are the second and third prints, with supports, note the warping of the rib support where the supports have pulled away.

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the third print with a light black primer base.IMG_5905.JPG.8676625f4031682449e5b09f8e309a57.JPG

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54 minutes ago, Schooner said:

Re sources, just checking you've come across these map libraries? Usually I would recommend Britain From Above as well, but there's only one useful photo.

 

I have spent many an hour pouring over them, a very useful resource. So many lesser branches have had great books written about them, but not the Falmouth branch.

Found some very interesting info on the web, but there are a lot of views, such as the cattle dock, the broad gauge coach body, etc I cannot find.

The Britain from above is an interesting period picture, thanks.

 

Stephen

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5 hours ago, 57xx said:

I'd be interested to know more about the 20T loco col wagon. Is it an N2?

you are correct sir, a tricky little beggar to draw, and took few test prints and revisions to get right.

Here are a couple more pics.963530807_GWRN2coalwagon.JPG.1f206974c67ce4c6eba523cef8daa57c.JPG

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Something else I am working on at present is the G20 Dean 6 wheel Saloon, like the one they have restored at Didcot. 

I am having an issue trying to figure out what the spring centres are. from hanger to hanger, as the pictures, and the drawings I have don't show it.

here is the progress so far. This will be mounted on MJT/Dart 3 axle floating w-irons, once they get here.1119586967_G20Saloonrender1.jpg.a4eab5cf37eba5423f710ad5bfad998f.jpg1901821340_G20Saloonrender3.jpg.0203feb3799aafbc7d13875f781b4017.jpg598477628_G20Saloonrender4.jpg.17b8d3f54a4391e8f3bd9f856c9f594d.jpg

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11 hours ago, drduncan said:

If you used 6ft springs on your Tadpole you could alter it and the j hanger assembly to be a separate body and cut/paste it across in Fusion or turn it into a component which can then be used across designs.

Duncan

I was hoping it was 6ft as I have it as a component, I have been doing more and more component drawings, to speed things up and cut down on redrawing every time.

 

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