csiedmo Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Hello everyone, Can anyone identify the first wagon in train in the following photo? (I'm assuming it's not just a massive shed on a lowfit) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/364105428971 Thanks, Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 A Continental ferry van. Someone with more knowledge might be able to tell you where from. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, BernardTPM said: A Continental ferry van. Someone with more knowledge might be able to tell you where from. The Italians were very fond of this style of roof, building both ordinary and refrigerated/ insulated vans with them. Built pre-WW2, there were some in uses into the 1970s. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 definitely Italian insulated van, like the one on the left of this pair 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Absolutely definitely FS, the markings can just be read. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 20, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2023 Ferry vans were air braked on the Continental single brake pipe system and 'piped through' so that they could be marshalled into part- or fully-fitted vacuum braked trains in the UK. The through pipe enabled the vacuum brakes to be applied on vehicles marshalled behind the piped through vehicle, but there had to be a minimum of 4 wheelsets on which the vacuum brake was working behind the piped through vehicle, and the rear 4 wheelsets had to be confirmed as having working brakes during the brake continuity test. Conquest was not fitted with train air brakes. The train looks like a fully fitted class 6 freight, but could be a class 7, conveying a BR and an LMS CCT, both NPCCS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Many Ferry vans were Vacuum fitted, not just vac piped, although this was mostly reduced to piped in later years. The SFV diagram book shows lots of different diagram numbers for these Italian vans, and the later issues started splitting up piped vs fitted with new diagram numbers, so it all gets a bit confusing, but I think its a fair bet that wagon was vac fitted at the time of the photo. Jon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Is this the Airfix / Kitmaster Interfrigo model I had as a child? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, doilum said: Is this the Airfix / Kitmaster Interfrigo model I had as a child? No, not at all 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 20, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2023 Your childhood Interfrigo is, IIRC, a Belgian prototype and a refrigerated vehicle; the end ladders and roof hatches are for refilling the ice compartment in the roof with crushed ice and the doors seal. It is of course still available from Dapol under the Kitmaster brand, and would I’m sure be a much more popular and commonly seen vehicle on layouts but for it’s H0 scale. The van in the photo is Italian and is, again IIRC, insulated but not refrigerated. They were mostly used to carry tomatoes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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