Tring Road East Spur sidings

[Halton Boy]

After working on two layout plans for friends of mine I have decided to work on a small O gauge layout of my own.

Here is the plan of the actual site as it was in the 1940's:

It is too wide in this form for O gauge so I need to change it without loosing the look of the real thing.

 

They used to empty the coal and coke out of the wagons and used a very early type of JCB to put it into lorries for delivery around the RAF base. The whole yard was covered in lumps of coal and coke.

The joiners shop and saw mill was owned by a contractor that maintained the RAF base. 

The engine was a 0-4-0 tank engine. This was replaced by a small diesel engine.

Ken 

[Halton Boy]

Hello everyone

I made a mistake with the actual site plan and left out a siding.

Revised plan:

I am not sure what the track layout was like at the left hand end as this is not clear, but it does not matter as I do not have room for lots of tracks coming off a single line.

 

I have had some problems trying to make this plan in O gauge.

The red lines are baseboard joins. Each square is 300mm.

Fiddle yard board 600x750mm.

Scenic  boards 3000x1000.

This is what I have come up with for now:

I had a real problem trying to get the run round to come off a horizontal track.

I made a 150mm (6") piece of track between point A and B which made point C line up correctly.

The engine shed is on a kick back with only half the engine shed modelled. 

Engines go into the cassette fiddle yard and can be turned or changed.

 

Although all the elements are there, four sidings and an engine shed,

I am not happy with this plan as it looks a bit contrived. 

 

Would a three way point at the left side where the tracks leave the fiddle yard look odd in a goods yard?

Would a double slip be used in a goods yard?

Thank you for your help

Ken

[5BarVT]

3 hours ago, Halton Boy said:

Would a three way point at the left side where the tracks leave the fiddle yard look odd in a goods yard?

Three way is more likely in a cramped yard than on a main line.

Paul.

[Halton Boy]

Hello Paul

Thankyou for your advice.

I have tried to fit a C&L three way point in, but cannot get it to work.

I have remade the plan using set track:

I am not happy with this, too many points and not enough sidings.

Here is version 2:

Here is version 3:

Thank you for your help

Ken

 

 

[SZ]

When you compress the length you also need to lose some of the complexity.

[Ray H]

On 03/02/2023 at 19:39, Halton Boy said:

 

Have you thought of converting point c into a 3 way point with the "extra" route going to the loco shed?

 

Likewise, how about converting point B into a double slip?

 

I think you'd soon curse yourself if you have the big board sizes you're suggesting, if there's any thought of making the layout portable.

[Enterprisingwestern]

 

This, in BR coal concentration days might give you a few pointers;

 

http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/n/norwich_victoria/index1.shtml

 

Mike.

[Halton Boy]

Thank you for your help everyone.

I have tried using 3 way points and double slips but because of their length I cannot get them to fit into the plan.

You are right the boards are too wide.

The real site was quite large.

Here is my latest try at getting the plan into a smaller space:

I am still not happy with this.

It looks wrong.

I can shunt wagons and timber trucks into the builders yard.

I can shunt coal wagons into the coal yard.

I can refuel the engine and put it into the engine shed.

With the run round loop it looks like too much track, but without it, it will be boring.

I could take out the engine shed connection.

Ken

One last try. The layout is now 16' long.

Baseboard joins are still a problem.

The RH set track point in the cassette fiddle yard may not be used.

 

[5BarVT]

On 06/02/2023 at 10:38, Halton Boy said:

With the run round loop it looks like too much track, but without it, it will be boring.

How about if you bring the run round off the start of the coal yard line.  Yes you lose some length there, but it will look less crowded.

And a three way at the RH end of the run round to give access to the shed that way will fit.  Being accessible via the run round means it shouldn’t be blocked by wagons.

Paul.

Was RayH’s idea.

Edited February 8, 2023 by 5BarVT
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[Halton Boy]

Hello Paul

I will try your advice.

Thank you

Ken