Aire Head Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I am still currently looking for numbers from Vacuum braked LMS D1832A vans. I managed to source a couple however I am looking for more. Does anyone have an images of vacuum brakes D1832A vans showing the number? Any livery is fine it's the number I particularly want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieS Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 According to "The Acquired wagon Vol 4" 202840/42/53/59/80, 202942/44 and loads of others in the M2xxxxx series 450 were fitted, 2,500 were unfitted and 166 were thro' piped. Now I am doing a piped one but I can't find a pic. So were piped vans fitted with a tie bar and either side brakes or (as I think) no tie bar and one side brakes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 If eight-shoe LMS brake gear, no tiebars ....... if a BR four-shoe conversion they'll have tiebars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Sitham Yard Posted February 11, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: If eight-shoe LMS brake gear, no tiebars ....... if a BR four-shoe conversion they'll have tiebars. Are you replying to the query regarding piped vans? If so why would a vehicle that is only piped ie. only working brakes on that actual vehicle are handbrakes have eight-shoe brake gear? I thought only fully fitted vehicles had this. BR conversions surely only refer to fitted vehicles. Andrew 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aire Head Posted February 11, 2023 Author Share Posted February 11, 2023 53 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: If eight-shoe LMS brake gear, no tiebars ....... if a BR four-shoe conversion they'll have tiebars. Vacuum Braked D1832As had 4 shoe brakes on push rods not 8 show clasps. They were on a 9ft wheelbase aswell so they weren't converted by BR and therefore don't appear to have acquired tiebars either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Apologies, both - responded in haste and missed specific reference to 'piped' and 9' wheelbase. ☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieS Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 12 hours ago, Aire Head said: Vacuum Braked D1832As had 4 shoe brakes on push rods not 8 show clasps. They were on a 9ft wheelbase aswell so they weren't converted by BR and therefore don't appear to have acquired tiebars either. D1832A M 215380 (P44 "The Acquired wagon Vol 4") had tie bars. Also 9ft w/b D1676 M 204565 (p36) this wagon is claimed to be piped and not fitted. However (murky photo) I think it is a fitted example? Other examples of 9ft fitted vans in the book have no tie bars. Over on https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/ most fitted 9ft w/b wagons have tie bars however these may be late additions as the vans have other mods (adapted to other usage). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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